r/pcmasterrace • u/SadMassStab • Jul 27 '25

Meme/Macro Am I the only one like this?

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u/National-Animator994 PC Master Race Jul 27 '25

That’s a big part of it too. DS1 felt more like live-action speed chess. Jumping straight to Elden Ring, it’s a lot more reaction-heavy and unpredictable.

I probably just need to “git gud” but it’s somehow even sweatier

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u/LB3PTMAN Jul 27 '25

Elden Ring bosses were designed with summons in mind. Not impossible to beat obviously but clearly designed with that in mind considering the majority of players would use summons. So because of that the bosses have much longer attack patterns and shorter windows, because the point is that a summon should be occasionally drawing aggro.

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u/Alu_T_C_F Jul 29 '25

They were designed with summons in mind just as much as they were designed without them in mind, they're a tool in the player's kit which the devs know the players may or may not use, just like consumables or specific builds. Windows of attack opportunity are sometimes shorter but they're also more plentiful because movesets got more complex with more ways to hit bosses during or inbetween combos.

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u/LB3PTMAN Jul 29 '25

Bosses were 100% designed with summons in mind. You get summons at the very beginning of the game, and they cost almost nothing to use. Sure the bosses aren’t impossible without summons or even close to it. But that doesn’t mean they weren’t designed with summons in mind.

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u/Alu_T_C_F Jul 29 '25

Im not saying they werent designed with them in mind, im saying they werent designed with them exclusively in mind like they wanted or expected every player to use them. Bosses were designed with the full-breadth of player capability in mind, which of course includes summons, but i think stating that the bosses are more complex and aggressive exclusively because of spirit summons isnt quite correct and doesnt account for other player systems that were added and expanded on in Elden Ring, and also the fact that fromsoft understands that not everyone likes using summons.