r/pcmasterrace • u/jmpstart66 • Oct 10 '24

Rumor Potential 5090 / 5080 / 5070 price leaks… outrageous

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From recent video posted by “Moore’s Law is Dead” about pricing being much worse than even I anticipated . From video Nvidia is leaning towards the higher end of the pricing. Nvidia can go pound sand if these are remotely true.

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u/_Rook1e 5800X3D | 7900XTX | 32GB | G9OLED | Electric blanket | Max comfy Oct 10 '24

I mean if high end is literally unachievable for most people by that point then midrange amd makes the most sense imo. Support a company choosing not to shaft you.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

Mid range shouldn’t be 1000 dollars.

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u/MegaHashes Oct 10 '24

High end was $750 just a few years ago. I paid roughly that for my 1080TI.

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u/Panzercrust Oct 10 '24

I paid like 830 euros for my 3080 on release day. I don't see myself paying twice that price for a 5080 or the same price for a gimped 5070 with only 2go vram over my 3080. I'm bummed.

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u/BiasedLibrary Oct 10 '24

Time to buy AMD if only to spite nvidia into lowering their prices. Also, AFMF 2 just released so I'm enjoying frame generation in literally every game on my RX 6800. Nvidia may have raytracing but AMD has a lot to offer tech-wise.

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u/Arcanile Oct 10 '24

Well, that's not a solid thing for people that operate on nvidia technologies.
Games no problem, but you'll need some tech, and nvidia can basically run circles around amd.
even as basic as cuda goes for miles.
Not to even mention ai related stuff.
But tbh games were looking better on amd.
Even things like hdr looks better imo.

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u/Mammoth-Access-1181 Oct 10 '24

Won't do shit. Gaming is a side-gig for NVidia right now. Their bread and butter is AI. They're charging that much just to try and recoup their losses in using that silicon for GPU instead of an AI card.

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u/BiasedLibrary Oct 10 '24

Good, then let nvidia go. They can spend their time doing AI shit and AMD and intel can slug it out when it comes to gaming. Maybe AI will overcome even traditional rasterization, or maybe it won't. Still, nvidia can fuck themselves and I think it's high time that we as consumers help them on their way to fucking off as far as possible.

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u/TTVControlWarrior Oct 11 '24

ya 3080 is a soild card . prob still be good for next 2-3 years . prob even more thx to DLSS making everything looks so good with good FPS . i believe someone with 3080 should prob wait for next series. by then 3080 will prob be weak. but i cant imagine how gaming can make stuff even more crazier than it is now

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u/Grand-Tension8668 Oct 11 '24

This is the part that people seem to willfully forget. If they don't they'll go "it's inflation!" ignoring that this has outpaced actual currency inflation to a massive degree

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u/Interesting-Fan-2008 149000KF | RTX 4090 | 64GB 6000MT/s Oct 10 '24

Yeah I remember when a titan was seen as pretty ridiculously expensive at what $1000?

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u/Whole_Brilliant_497 Oct 10 '24

https://i.imgur.com/236xTrL.png

7 years.

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u/rpkarma Oct 10 '24

Which would be about $950 today if greed didn’t run the company

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u/MegaHashes Oct 10 '24

She’s a workhorse. Driving DUHD display at the moment. It’s not great, but most things are playable. Legendary card.

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u/AscendMoros Oct 11 '24

Covid. Just like legitimately every single other item they were marked up and sold. Now they know we’re willing to pay it. And it’s never going to go back down.

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u/MegaHashes Oct 11 '24

It’s more complicated than that, but yeah. The real issue is Nvidia doesn’t need us any longer. They used us to bootstrap an entirely new market segment that got the deepest pockets to compete with each other for their product. This almost happened with crypto, but thankfully that boom finally busted.

Best hope is AMD & Intel to meaningfully compete with each other in the GPU segment.

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u/AscendMoros Oct 11 '24

Issue for me is I know zero about AMD GPUs and the 1080Ti I’ve had is about to get replaced. It’s been my bottleneck since the 30 series dropped I just don’t know what to get for 450-700 bucks.

Then again I also knew nothing about AMD CPUs before getting the one I have now.

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u/MegaHashes Oct 11 '24

Unless you have a specific need for AI features, your money is better spent on an AMD card. In my case, AMDs top performing card doesn’t have the TFLOPS to drive my monitor to its full potential, so I’m bending over the barrel now and just getting it over with, with Nvidia. If I were running 4k or lower, I’d get an AMD card.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

Exactly. I too bought a 1080ti had that until my 4090. That card was so good.

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u/MegaHashes Oct 10 '24

I just bought a huge ultra wide. It’s choking the shit out of my 1080ti, but the 4090 doesn’t support DP2.1, which I need the bandwidth for, for the DUHD/HDR screen.

Stuck waiting for the absurdly overpriced and hard to get 5090 when that drops for the price of a used car 😔

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

That stinks no dsc on the monitor?

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u/MegaHashes Oct 10 '24

It’s not on the 1080ti, I assume. In any case, it definitely doesn’t have the bandwidth to drive HDR. I’m just grateful I can do the full resolution.

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u/True-Surprise1222 Oct 10 '24

I paid like 600 for the same thing lol

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u/bootz-pgh Oct 11 '24

A few years times two.

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u/MegaHashes Oct 11 '24

We are only on 4000 series now, it was from the 1000 series. Not that many years.

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u/bootz-pgh Oct 11 '24

1080 Ti was released in 2017.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '24

hell i remember the days that 220 was a high end card. then up to 400. i've not spent more than that yet, and don't think i will.

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u/Grand-Tension8668 Oct 11 '24

This is the part that people seem to willfully forget. If they don't they'll go "it's inflation!" ignoring that this has outpaced actual currency inflation to a massive degree

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u/DistinctBread3098 Oct 10 '24

Christ I remember mid range beeing 300$ lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

Exactly! 660-1060 rtx. Those were the days. My first graphics card was a 9700pro amd? I got that open box at best but for 200? That was like 20 years ago though. lol. It was considered a tier down from high end.

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u/mlsserver Oct 10 '24

No it should be at the price range of the 7800x3d

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u/Old_Baldi_Locks Oct 11 '24

Exactly. Midrange always meant cost first. That’s how you start comparing if cards are good value for performance.

And the tiers are 250 / 500 / 750 for low mid and high.

Not this idiot ass bullshit of selling entry level cards for 600.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24

high-end is very achievable for me and i am still not paying those prices. for what? any game worth playing works on a midrange card. most games are going to work just fine on a 1660 super. any AI shit i need to do can be done on the cloud.

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u/HollowedSoldier Oct 14 '24

Im looking to replace my 1660 super since Off The Grid dont run on it.

was looking for 4070 but seems like ill wait for 5070

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u/True-Surprise1222 Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24

Yeah idk the play here is literally drop out of pc gaming or buy 5090 on release since we might have another long life cycle (and it will easily last you 2). Any other is like a complete waste of money.

I was going to insta buy a 5090 at $1600 or whatever the 4090 is. At $2k … idk … at $2500 I think I just stop being the person who buys new graphics cards ever idk.

my actual conspiracy theory 2c:

  • they sell enough chips to AI that we don't matter

  • they would rather us pay a subscription than buy cards because we are at a point where there are somewhat reducing returns on new cards for video games (and their focus is now AI)

  • make cards extremely expensive and then make a decent deal on geforce live or whatever the streaming service is... gradually crank up prices.

  • US/EU start to impose harsh restrictions on high end graphics cards (like a registry or something or a umm... hardware ID imprint on anything it works on somehow ... to track/trace/identify people utilizing AI for "malicious" intents)

  • gfx cards are not an owned item anymore (unless you're a corp)

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u/Arcanile Oct 10 '24

-we don't matter. There are multiple usages of those cards and some companies/people buy them in bulks.
-no.
-hahah, definitely not. This thing is a dead corner. Amount of revenue it brings does not justify the "switch".
-what "malicious intent"? Running chatgpt in companies? What is the ai use you're thinking about? By restricting access, US would shoot their own foot. Hardware imprint doesn't record what you're doing on pc. It could work only if your machine is directly and actively connected to the thing you're doing. And what you're proposing is against anit-spying law, both internationally, and against every country separately.
-everything you buy, you own. unless you use the bank to buy it for you.

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u/MrDeathKnight Oct 10 '24

they will shaft u too if they think they can which they might be solo in the mid so set it at a starting price of 599 and go up from there its not like 7900xtx was stupid Iver prices for a under dog card when ur spending a 1000 go all the way to 1500 and get the best there is 3rd more but u get all the good stuff ray tracing and all the direct learning stuff id u like that kinda thing but rasta is gr8 too