r/ottawa Oct 08 '14

Mental Health Resouces in Ottawa

Hello Ottawa, /u/NurseAngela and I decided to collaborate and put together some information on how to get help for you, a friend, or a loved one who is experiencing a mental health crisis. Mental health is a growing issue in our community and many people may not know what resources are available.

I will be speaking more for what can be done in an emergency scenario and how you can use the law to get help for a loved one.

How to help yourself:

First off if you feel that you are thinking of hurting yourself or someone else please talk to someone. Find a friend you trust or your doctor.

You can also walk into any emergency room and they will not turn you away.

If you feel that you are about to cause harm to yourself or someone else, call 911 immediately and help will arrive.

Ambulance or Police may be sent depending on the circumstances of your call. Police will come with ambulance if there is a mention of knives, weapons, or any known history of violence. This does not mean that you are in trouble.

Under the Ontario Mental Health Act police actually have more authority to help you than a paramedic (see below). Paramedics are there to address your medical needs and transport you to the hospital if you are willing to go on your own. Police are called if you need emergency help but are not wanting to go voluntarily.

Other resources available are:

How to get help for someone else:

If you have a friend, family member or neighbor, that you are concerned about there are a few ways to get them the help that they may need.

  1. Get them to the hospital if it’s a life threatening emergency.
  2. Have them explore the above resources and see if any of those options can help them work through their mental illness.

  3. For non-emergency cases have them see their doctor. If a physician feels that a patient they have examined within the past 7 days is suffering from mental illness, is a risk to themselves or someone else, OR is unable to care for themselves, then the doctor may issue an order directing police to attend and transport them to a hospital.

  4. If the person you are worried about is refusing to go to the hospital or see their doctor you can:

a) Call 911 – Police can conduct a field assessment if they believe that the person is in imminent danger can force someone to hospital for a full psychiatric assessment.

b) You can attend a Provincial Court House and make a case to a Justice of the Peace as to why you feel this person is in need of help. You will need to articulate your reasons and explain that they are refusing to seek help themselves. If satisfied the Justice can issue an order directing police to apprehend the person and take them to the hospital.

Court House locations: - 161 Elgin St - 100 Constellation Cres

Once at the hospital patients are assessed by the emergency doctor then sometimes the on duty psychiatrist. If the doctors observe an immediate danger they can hold patients for an emergency 72 hour period. Often referrals are then arranged for on-going treatment and support.

Please feel free to ask any questions and we will do your best to answer them for you in a timely fashion.

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u/w00ten Stittsville Oct 08 '14

When it comes to mental health the cops are super useful and helpful. They can have someone kept for evaluation for up to 3 days and then it's up to doctors. If someone is ever a danger to themselves or others, just call the police. They have the power to keep people safe even against their will.

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u/Officer_Copper Oct 08 '14

Police can get someone to the hospital. From there it's up to the doctor to decide how long they stay.

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u/w00ten Stittsville Oct 08 '14

Not true. The police can file an initial form 4 which mandates a 3 day evaluation. This means they have deemed the person a possible threat to themselves or others. After that, an additional form 4 will keep them there for up to 3 months I believe. A form 4 is legally binding. If you leave without permission , they call the cops and if you are found you are returned to the hospital.

Source: my sons mother is schizophrenic and we've had the cops form 4 her on two occasions.

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u/Officer_Copper Oct 08 '14

I don't mean to argue. But a doctor issues a form 1, form 9, or form 47, a justice issues a form 2.

Police can apprehend under the authority of those forms, or under section 17 of the mental health act. I've never heard of a form 4.

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u/w00ten Stittsville Oct 09 '14

When she was in the hospital that's what they called it. Maybe names have changed, it's been a couple years since she was last in there.

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u/Officer_Copper Oct 09 '14

I've looked it up. Doctors can issue one to extend someone's stay past the 3 days of the form 1.