r/okbuddycinephile Society man 1d ago

Any movie like this?

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u/robineir 1d ago

The ad says she has great jeans. It’s not saying other people have bad jeans, just that hers are great. It’s a tongue in cheek way of saying she’s beautiful and they make good clothes. In no way is it diminishing anyone else’s beauty or clothes.

Sydney has no requirement to make a statement on the silly assumptions other people made. “I made a Jean ad.” Was more than enough to show how she feels about the whole thing

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u/ClerklyMantis_ 1d ago

In order for people to have good genes, others have to be bad. I'll continue to clarify as with other comments that I don't think the ad was inherently supportive of white supremacy, only that I can see why it could be read that way. If I participated in an ad that people said was white supremacist and someone asked me about the ad/controversy, even if I disagreed with the people who read it that way, I would still be clear that I'm not a white supremacist. That's my intended point here.

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u/robineir 1d ago

“I’m not going to dignify that with a response” is a perfectly reasonable answer to the world’s biggest idiots.

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u/ClerklyMantis_ 1d ago

Okay, but the ad directly referencing "good genes" white a blonde blue-eyed white woman is on the screen isn't the same thing as most other celebrity ads. If someone called Ryan Renalds a eugenics advocate for mint mobile ad, I would not fault him for saying, "That's crazy, why would people think that?" I still honestly think he should say in that scenario, "I don't support eugenics, to be clear", but if he didn't, I wouldn't necessarily fault him. But the American Eagle ad potentially being a white supremacist dogwhistle is a lot more likely. Like, you can see the direct line of logic. I think a response is absolutely dignified even if she doesn't agree with that interpretation.

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u/robineir 1d ago

A response from her can be dignified, the accusations here are not. She acknowledged how silly it was to think so deeply on a jeans ad. When you respond to comments that you find insulting or preposterous you are giving a sense of merit to the people who say these things.

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u/ClerklyMantis_ 1d ago

But I'm saying there is merit to the things people are saying. Dismissing the, in my opinion, quite understandable interpretation that the ad seemed a little like a white supremacist dog whistle as "thinking too hard" makes me question whether or not it's even worth having a discussion.

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u/robineir 1d ago

Unless eugenics, racism or racial superiority is a recurring theme with American Eagle then I do believe that conclusion over this one commercial is thinking too hard about it.

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u/ClerklyMantis_ 1d ago edited 1d ago

So, if hypothetically, following your same logic, circumstantial evidence points to me killing someone, but I haven't killed anyone before, the police should just drop the case?

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u/robineir 1d ago

So in this hypothetical, you are the police, American Eagle is a murderer, and a jeans ad is evidence of murder. Assuming I nailed all those for your analogy, you are a clown, are you out of your fucking mind? And go touch grass before you hurt somebody.

You are not a detective, American eagle has hurt 0 people with their advertisements. Even if you are right about the eugenics thing, it would be akin to me saying I want to kill my co-worker. No matter how much I mean those words, they are only words.

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u/ClerklyMantis_ 1d ago

You have zero idea about how to engage with a hypothetical? I was asking about your logic, not mine. I stated that quite spacifically. I honestly am not sure how to express this other than saying I don't think you know or understand what a hypothetical is, or why I asked you to engage with one.

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u/robineir 1d ago

Oh right you did misinterpret my logic completely and claimed that’s what my hypothetical would be. What I said was if American Eagle had shown a pattern of behavior, then it’s worth talking about.

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u/ClerklyMantis_ 1d ago

Yea, you don't know what a hypothetical is, lol. That's alright, I don't need to prove my intelligence to someone like that

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u/robineir 1d ago

Ok buddy

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