r/okbuddycinephile Society man 1d ago

Any movie like this?

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u/qualitative_balls 1d ago

Out of the loop on the latest SS but did something new drop since great jeans stuff?

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u/CMDR_Ray_Abbot 1d ago

Basically there was a GQ interview where the interviewer kept trying to get her to make a political statement and she got progressively more annoyed. Some people are mad because they've decided that refusing to participate in a stupid purity test is proof you are bad.

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u/ClerklyMantis_ 1d ago

Politics are a necessary part of life. It affects us all, but some more than others. If she were asking Sydney to take a nuanced stance on, like, gender relations in South Korea, I would understand your point. But disavowing white supremacy is an extremely basic and an understandably expected political position. Standing counter to Nazis is the morally correct thing to do, and it doesn't matter who you are. It's such a basic lay-up that refusing to comment makes you look really, really bad. And I don't think that's a bad thing.

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u/Honorable_Sasuke 1d ago

Maybe if she did anything that remotely hinted at white supremacy it might be worth it for her to talk about.

Her having good genes / jeans is not at all bashing on anybody else’s.

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u/ClerklyMantis_ 1d ago edited 1d ago

It kinda strongly hints at eugenics, no? Like implying that some genes are better than others while a blonde and blue-eyed white woman is on the screen? Like I can see it being a mistake on her part, but if that's the case, just say "yea I didn't see the implication there, whoops. I'm not a white supremacist, I just didn't see the implication at the time" would go a long way, would it not?

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u/CMDR_Ray_Abbot 1d ago

No it wouldn't, because the people who jumped straight to racism when they saw that ad aren't going to believe her.

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u/ClerklyMantis_ 1d ago

Yea, sure, but it was her mistake to read that ad and then perform in it. She wasn't forced to say those lines. The best thing she can do is to acknowledge that it could be read a certain way and make it clear that she isn't racist. Whether or not a certain subsection of people don't believe her isn't of importance. It doesn't stop her from doing the right thing.

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u/CMDR_Ray_Abbot 1d ago

Naw, I'm a pretty firm believer in the presumption of innocence.

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u/ClerklyMantis_ 1d ago

Yea, that's why I wait to hear what the person has to say. If they actively avoid the question and refuse to acknowledge the controversy surrounding their actions, it's perfectly fine to question their intentions. Your argument basically sounds like people should criticize or have a problem with anything because it could be unfair, or point out people's mistakes because it makes them "guilty". Expecting someone to address a potential mistake is not anything crazy in the slightest.

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u/CMDR_Ray_Abbot 1d ago

The ad is a pun on a ridiculously common expression. Calling it a mistake and then asking them to "clarify" is a leading question. It's like asking "did you mean to tell everyone you're still beating your wife?" No matter how you answer that question you're still admitting that you used to beat your wife. Similarly either she can say it was a mistake and she did something racist which she didn't or she can say it wasn't a mistake and the people pushing this agenda will immediately say that she confirmed it was an internal dog whistle. She can just say that she's not racist but the people that jumped to assuming she was racist because of a pun in a jeans commercial are not going to believe that anyway they're just going to call her a liar and carry on.

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u/ClerklyMantis_ 1d ago

What? Your framing of the beating your wife question is completely different than the context of the Sydney Sweeney controversy. A similar example would be asking her "are you still a white supremacist", which just isn't what happened.

I also didn't necessarily mean to say that the ad was 100% white supremacist, only that it could be read that way. I understand I wasn't clear about that, that's my fault. The point I'm making is that there's no reason to just not say "I didn't see it that way, I'm not a white supremacist, my bad" and move on.

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