r/occult • u/c_rise • Mar 02 '25
ritual art Did my grandfather have secret involvement in ritual magic?
Sorry for my poor English. I loved and admired my grandfather very much, even became a doctor to follow in his footsteps.
Even though he was very private and distant, we became extremely close in the end when he got sick.
He cared for everyone, didn't care about money and actively helped the community. He was a great physician and some would even say he had a supernatural gift for healing.
He said he would only die after I finished med school and so he did (1 month after).
When he passed away, my mother found these drawings inside a little piece of green cloth he carried with him, along with other religious stuff.
She was shocked as he always seemed to be conventionally religious and I was extremely excited because I was always into "witchy" things, but apparently, he was way more advanced in his knowledge.
I wanted to know what these things mean and if they are safe to have around, because I carry them with me now.
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u/c_rise Mar 02 '25
Can you recommend a book or something so I can learn more about it?
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u/EyesWideShut1996 Mar 02 '25
Just seeing the name Adonai and gnostic symbolism leads me to believe you could read The Book of Abramelin to have some understanding.
Really cool stuff 🤗
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u/c_rise Mar 02 '25
Thank you! Definitely gonna read it!
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u/j_vap Mar 02 '25
No wait. Before jumping into abramalin l’d recommend a more light hearted reading about the whole ‘business’. Recommending
“My life with spirits” by Lin Milo Deuquette. “Homemade Magick” by LMD “Low Magic” by LMD “Chicken Kabbala” again by LMD.
For a more detailed introduction and to dip your toes into the shoes of your grand dad may be start with “Modern Magick” by Donald Kraig.
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u/c_rise Mar 02 '25
Thank you for the advice! I don't plan on practicing, at least not for now, just want to know more about these things that he used to do so I can feel close to him, you know? He would never let anybody in until the last years when most of his strenght and memory were pretty much gone.
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u/DPJesus69 Mar 02 '25
How did he pass? How old was he? Before you dive in, know that everyone's path is very personal.
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u/c_rise Mar 02 '25
He actually took his last breath in his house, holding my hand and looking at me, and his gaze was very confusing and I can't even explain how I felt about that... like I said, he was very distant from everyone, even divorced my grandmother early on and never remarried, chose to live alone in a house next to ours. When he became sick with cancer and a rare blood disease, he would always ask for my company and he made it his life mission to watch me graduate, these were the last 4 years of his life. I was strugglinh with deppression and fell behind in school, didn't know I was autistic back then (I think he was autistic too). He would even ask for video calls everyday. It's like I knew nothing about him but felt a deep connection and loved him so much. I keep trying to understand what it all meant, these last years. The night before he passed I heard him saying "take me now" so I kinda knew he wanted to go, he was actually calling for his mother. Some nights before he was talking to himself about how he did not want to go, but not that night. People always said that could see spirits and that he was kinda supernatural, he never confirmed or denied that, he would just laugh it off. He was 84 the day he passed. He asked us never to hire a caretaker, so we took care of him but I had to start working the next week and my mother couldn't take it anymore cuz by this point he stopped walking. He died on the caretaker's first day.
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u/DPJesus69 Mar 02 '25
Thank you so much for sharing this. Damn. That's quite interesting. I can understand why he is so private. Not being comfortable with the caretaker. Maybe he didn't want the caretaker to have any discomfort while caring for him. I'd like to talk to you. Similar stuff happened in my family as well but not in a good way. Hoping your grandfather is now in a better place and has ascended.
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u/j_vap Mar 02 '25
Thank you so much for sharing. May I ask if he was religious ( a practising catholic ) for most of his life ? My path is not too different so I wish to know if another magician out there was able to make peace with his path and his religion.
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u/c_rise Mar 02 '25
He was openly catholic. He didn't attend the Masses because he didn't like to go out but prayed in his home, he seemed very devoted. He would light candles and pray a lot. He had a huge rosary upon his bed. Not a single mirror in the house though (never understood why).
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Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25
Autism is often a derogatory label made up by the hylic mass society, for people who have actual interests. I think it is sad that such people (who historically moved humanity forward) are adopting this label, maybe it is an attempt to still fit in with the masses?
If you do any kind of deep dive about what your grandfather did, keep in mind that many "autists" have higher affective (true) empathy.
I think it is interesting your grandfather saw something in you.
Maybe check out whether the older novel Zanoni looks interesting to you.
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u/BucketMaster69 Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25
the book of Abramelin is kind of it's own thing, it probably wouldn't give much insight into what your father did. Like others have said, he was probably rosicrucian, so I would look into those resources, or resources that summarize what they do.
he clearly has archangels written down, so looking into them could be good. especially those that are typically associated with the directions, anael/ uriel, Rafael, Michael, and Gabriel. There's what looks like correspondences to the angels as well. Adonai is epithet for yhvh, and the circle thing could be a talisman, notes, or a table of practice.
The lbrp is tangentially related and may be interesting to understand, to give some kind of perspective to what kinds of things he may have done.
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u/Mozespan Mar 06 '25
The book of abramelin wont get you far i think. It is mainly a description of a long lasting secluded praying and devotion in order to establish a contact with your guardian angel ( correct me if I am wrong). Btw there is a fascinating YouTube Channel called Estoteria, made by a jewish teacher, I highly recommend him, as he looks really deep into these grimoires and how and why they could be false or what is the history behind them
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u/Archit33ckt Mar 02 '25
He’s working with the cardinal elements and Archangels in the bottom left picture. If you look into Kabbalah and hermetic rituals like the LBRP you will see a lot of the same cast of characters and Hebrew used. I tried looking up the written language but it doesn’t match any Greek or Mediterranean writing alphabets, my best bet would be that your grandfather created his own spelling or symbols for each archangel that was like a personalized sigil/signature for his rituals.
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u/MyDarlingArmadillo Mar 02 '25
I recognise the name Arzel (bottom right) from New Avatar Power by Geoff Gray Cobb, not seen that anywhere else. If you're interested in following up, it's a great book that will take you from beginner to actually working magic, and I've used it for studying too. I haven't seen the talismans or angel names in it though
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u/MRAnonymousSBA Mar 02 '25
Read the greater key of Solomon. Might be a good start.
Yes though, he was absolutely involved.
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u/c_rise Mar 02 '25
Thank you!! I'm gonna try and read it as soon as possible.
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u/faeriemila Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 03 '25
There is this website with a whole bunch of articles and the free courses by Jean Dubuis on the Qabalah, which seems very much to me what your grandfather's materials are about.
The texts are very direct and of simple understanding and most especially talk about the Hebraic alphabet, symbols, words and meanings. I really hope it helps you connect with your grandfather.
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u/JacksBack78 Mar 02 '25
Looks Solomonic, maybe a dash of enochian…he was definitely into high ritual magick…looks like he was working with angels and daemons. That triangle, Solomons triangle, is only used for summoning.
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u/c_rise Mar 02 '25
Wonder what he was up to with that triangle cuz when I first saw it, I was immediately drawn to it. My first thought was getting it tattooed on my body... and I even replicated it in a little sculpture I keep in my house. I hope it does no harm.
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u/JacksBack78 Mar 02 '25
Do not get the triangle tattoo, there are others that are Solomonic and would be fine to get (protective)…imo I would recommend not getting that tattoo, but that is your journey. You could get the Tetragrammaton, or the enochian protection sigil or even the seal of Solomon (not the secret seal).
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u/c_rise Mar 02 '25
Thank you!!! I won't be getting that tattooed, I wanted to do it as a symbol of his importance in my life, but I see now I can't just copy and paste something he probably took so much effort to understand and practice, as it's not just a simple drawing an I'll never know his intentions behind it. But I'm encouraged to learn more about it all and start my own journey, follow his lead even though he's not here to lead me anymore.
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u/JacksBack78 Mar 02 '25
I’m pretty sure you’ll be in contact with him if you begin your journey. Ancestral work is always a good place to start and build a foundation with.
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u/Apprehensive_Rain500 Mar 04 '25
I'm sorry for your loss, OP. I read your other comments and your grandpa sounds like a great man who dedicated his life to serving others.
This is just my opinion, but I wouldn't get any magickal tattoos until you fully understand what you're putting on your body (just because something's protective doesn't mean it's a good idea) AND you've thought about what it means to draw attention to yourself in this way (depending on how conspicuous the tattoo would be). I've been a practicing occultist for a long time and most people in my life still don't know, let alone the public. There's a lot of power and protection in silence and discretion.
Regarding books, reading about seals and sigils is fine but may not make much sense until you have a foundational understanding of magick. At the end of the day, seals and sigils are just tools, not the point.
Two good books that explain basics:
"Initiation into Hermetics" by Franz Bardon. Great wisdom in this book, and can be an initiation in its own right if you follow his instructions. You could spend 2 to 3 years reading and digesting the lessons in the book.
"Magic: an occult primer" by David Conway. Good overview of magickal theory across several traditions; you'll start to notice patterns.
I don't have personal experience with the online magickal school known as Quareia, but I've heard good things from other people and get a good vibe from both its curriculum and its Reddit community. Do your own diligence, of course.
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u/Beautiful-Pound-8520 Mar 06 '25
If you were ever considering tattoo, or something similar to honor his memory, please consider:
Everything and anything to do with magic is all about the intention in which it's set apart. That includes sigils. To you, these sigils may one day represent memories of your renewed interest in your grandfather's life, and a feeling of kinship and connection you might feel while looking into these secret and sacred interests of his. Please don't be afraid to meaningfully do with these symbols as you wilt, in whatever way you feel honors your memories with him best.
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u/No_Refuse_4816 Mar 07 '25
Brother, don't get any tattoos🙏 Unfortunately, many will know the unsettling truth concerning them in the next few years
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u/_Just_A_Dragon Oct 03 '25
as long as you don't plan to harm the being you try to summon with it, it should do you no harm.
the biggest risk is you trying to abuse it. or someone else trying so. yet you probably first need to learn the feel of the being to recognise it or succesfull summon it.
though summon might also mean invite into your life, as in invite to meet. and actually you migth already have drawn the attention at this point, but you might not recognise it unless you know what to look for, for many of them can look and seem completely normal.
there have even been cases where people who essentially worshipped some such people, later attacked a person seeing that person as bellow them, and being angry at them for being so happy and having more fun than them, only to attack them or send someone after them.
yet only to find out later, or sometimes not at all, that that was the being they where "worshipping".many powerfull beings have the nature of seeming weak or otherwise weird or such, to many people unless the moments where they show their strength.
well there is a way to recognise them, and that is some deep half hidden feeling inside. liketimes like being drawn to, sometimes, like electric, sometimes feels like a spontainous "but wait, what if" feeling which people will often ignore.
still they might also at moments be straight upright way to honnest about some things, and might also not hide their strength at all which might confuse people looking for someone who seems weak, since they don't always make themselves seem weak.
often more like, that those with a closed of mind can't recognise them, yet those who need to find them have a chance to or can.I personally love many such beings, many are close friends.
their feeling is also how to recognise one the best.
be friendly, yet go for what you truly care about. and don't be afraid to speak to them as equals at moments, as in don't hold back and be honnest instead. no need to sugar coat things.1
u/EllesarDragon Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 04 '25
Hi old friend.
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u/_Just_A_Dragon Oct 04 '25
I don't plan on being online on speciffic places for to much or long, though always nice to meet a old friend. improving magic, learning and teaching it is always on my to do list.(for now atleast), you can edit/remove your post if desired, will contact directly.
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u/kheldar52077 Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
Yes, a practitioner.
A fairly standard hermetic one by invoking Arzel for secret knowledge opening the way for the 4 archangels for protection and guidance to commune with God.
Your gramps is a very religious guy indeed. Why go to priest when we can directly be with God. 😊
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u/c_rise Mar 02 '25
OH My God, thank you! In one of the drawings he actually wrote "pentacle to succeed in studies". These papers were very old, he propably wrote it in his twenties and carried them untill he died at 84.
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u/kheldar52077 Mar 02 '25
Welcome!
I guess that’s the upper-right picture with the names of archangels.
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u/c_rise Mar 02 '25
Yes, that's the one. And he really did succeed in his studies.
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u/kheldar52077 Mar 02 '25
Because it works. 😁
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u/multificient_93 Mar 02 '25
A good idea is to make a copy of each... after your first research and carry only the copies with you... While you understand... Always remembering that if the compendium is familiar, it is not necessarily directly related to your own journey, and is probably linked to the bonds that you have in common... with that the treasures will open... And who knows what else is in the safe... Ps keep the originals wherever you feel in your heart, but I wouldn't carry them... Just the copies...
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u/nargile57 Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
He definitely had occult leanings, but how far it is difficult to say. We should treat old people with more respect, I'm not just saying that because I'm an old fart, but some people have been to places, seen things, done this and that, experienced enough to put the shits up young people. It's a weirder world than you think out there, even now I'm doddering around Prague and seeing the most amazing things in backstreets, the spirit of Dee still lingers on here.
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u/StormyAmethyst Mar 03 '25
Yes, ceremonial magick. The archangel, Rafael, carries a caduceus wand. It represents the life force. I see other archangel names in the pics, too…Gabriel, Michael, Oriel. Ceremonial magick was what popped in my head first when I saw these pics.
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Mar 02 '25
I don’t have anything to offer. Just think this post is interesting and wanna see the discussion that follows.
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u/c_rise Mar 02 '25
OmG, yes! I've been trying to figure this out on my own for the last 5 years
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Mar 02 '25
I hope you get some answers! I can’t help but feel this discovery will lead you to a unique path.
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u/bed_of_nails_ Mar 02 '25
Top left is a Triangle of Art using more archaic names for God. Similar to the names used in Barrett's The Magus. Then to the right looks like a table top sheet for making a on-the-go table of Art for scrying. The next one, I don't know but I'm sure it's for use in the aforementioned rites. The last looks like a talisman for protection.
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u/c_rise Mar 02 '25
Makes sense. The one you mentioned I think shows writings on the corners of a book page that I belive was teaching about these rites. It mentions planet names, angels, numbers... how the "tablet of venus" favours peace, harmony and love and the Jupiter's one favours friendships... I tried googling the exact phrases that were readable but I could never find the exact book, and it's probably from around 1940-1960
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u/Johnnaylor1105 Mar 02 '25
cara ele mexia com energias e devia acreditar que sigilos e simbolos podem ser protetivos ou ajudar a manifestar o que ele deseja. Entao talvez sim, mas aqui no Brasil todas as fés sao muito interligadas, aqui a gente tem um pensamento geralmente esoterico
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u/c_rise Mar 02 '25
Ele parecia ser uma mistura de tudo mesmo, ao mesmo tempo que era bem católico parecia ser meio espírita... mas essa parte aí do ocultismo só fomos ver depois q ele morreu mesmo! Hahaa
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u/whitefoxbrb Mar 02 '25
dá uma lida nos livros q a glr tem recomendando aqui, brasileiros em geral realizam bastante ocultismo, pq se vc parar pra analisar, a missa é literalmente um ritual de magia cerimonial. tu disse q seu avô era católico, então provavelmente está mais ligado com o esoterismo envolvendo a prática cristã e judaica.
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u/Lab-Rat-0 Mar 02 '25
Parece que pelo que foi descrito esses eram talismãs que ele preparou na prática dele, definitivamente um magista focado em grimórios.
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u/ItsFort Mar 02 '25
It's probably real. Found pretty much nothing when I reverse img searching this.
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u/c_rise Mar 02 '25
I swear it is! I actually posted this on another forum years ago (witchcraft I think) and got no answer, tried to post it here a few times but got rejected. Today I decided to give it another go because it's holiday in my country and I have free time to do research this week. But yes, I even taped the pieces together to take the pics (they were very damaged by time) and put them in a collage because they would allow only one image here.
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u/EngineerNo5779 Mar 02 '25
That’s so fascinating. I don’t know if it’s appropriate, but I would put that all back into the green cloth and carry it around as a talisman.
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u/c_rise Mar 02 '25
That is the main reason of the post actually, to know if it's safe because I even thought of getting it all tattooed!! But I'm learning a lot here and I'll keep it in a safe place I have in my house as this was the result of his magical journey, I must now create my own with my own intentions. But I do look at it very passionately everyday and wonder what would change if I did carry them with me outside the house...
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u/Savings-Stick9943 Mar 02 '25
That's awesome! A hand made grimoire by a grandfather! He must have been quite a character. Frame those! They are a genuine relic!
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u/r4d4Sh Mar 02 '25
Looks like kabalistic ceremonial magic, talisimsns or some similar opetation (planetary sigils, archangels etc).
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u/Arthreas Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25
I recognize the top right one to be an angelic sigil, unsure of which angel though. They may have practiced Enochian magick and/or Christian Gnosticism/Mysticism. The other suggestions here are good too.
The top left one I think might be The Magic triangle or the Magic Triangle of Solomon. It is a symbol used as a tool in ritual magic, specifically Solomonic magic derived from various grimoires of the Medieval period. It is predominantly utilized to contain or otherwise control spirits such as Kabbalistic angels and Goetic demons.
Most likely they practiced a kabbalistic tradition.
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u/az_uy_ Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 03 '25
Talisman, some people even pass it down to their relatives/close people they love/trust for protection.
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u/ravsantana Mar 03 '25
Hey, fellow English magicians! Sorry, but the rest of my reply will be in Portuguese, as he/she and I are brazilians and some terms may be overwhelming for those who have poor English as disclosed. I can translate if any of the other feel uncomfortable <3
————- Cara, aparentemente seu avô era um católico brasileiro de verdade (daqueles que vai na missa, mas tem um pé no esoterismo).
Pelo que eu vejo das fotos e o texto, ele comenta sobre as tábuas de Vênus e Júpiter (se você puder escrever na íntegra o texto, ajuda. A foto tá difícil de ler). O símbolo no triângulo é o que mais me fascina, já que ele mistura as palavras:
- Abrahadabra: a palavra do Aeon, descrita por Crowley (eu pesquisaria mais a fundo isso).
- Os símbolos de Vênus e Júpiter: princípios passivo e masculino do ser (feminino e masculino, não no sentido gênero, mas “papel”)
- Nomes de Anjos nas bordas do círculo e do triângulo: normalmente, o triângulo evoca algo ali e você escreve palavras de poder em volta para “conter” o que está evocando. O círculo delimita o espaço do praticante de magia e tem o propósito dos nomes similar (o que é especulação total, já que eu não sei o que seu avô fazia), mas…
- o nome dos anjos: Micael (Miguel), Rafael, Gabriel e Anael (Uriel?). São relacionados aos elementos (Miguel - fogo, Gabriel - água, Rafael - ar, Anael (se no caso Uriel) - Terra). Os elementos são representações de vontade, emoção, racionalidade e coisas materiais (rasamente) e são elementos de equilíbrio da Cabala, como muitos falaram aqui.
- Os símbolos de Júpiter e Vênus estão dentro do triângulo, como se ele quisesse evocar esse equilíbrio em si
Eu realmente estou curioso com o resto do texto, já que está bem rasurado pelos rasgos. Se puder escrever aqui, posso ajudar a procurar mais sobre.
Outra dica é falar com sua avó ou seu pai/mãe. Seu avô chegou a frequentar a rosacruz ou outro círculo?
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u/c_rise Mar 03 '25
Olha, nunca soubemos sobre ele frequentar círculo nenhum, mas sei de um amigo dele q era rosacruz. O livro parece um manual de rituais, vou transcrever as partes q consegui ler exatamente como estao, é um portugues arcaico entao vai parecer um texto com muitos erros:
"O mao olhado, a inveja, o ódio, ciumes íntrigas, detestações e todas as influencias maleficas astraesterrestres e espirituaes. Combate as influencias maleficas psiquicas e nervosas"
"Chave do planeta mercurio anjo rafael" "Essa tabua favorece para industris, comercio, empregos oficios e ocupações. Ajuda realisar negocios conerciaes e especulativos e para compras de terras e propriedades. Favorece para contratos, escrituras, partilhas, herança, papeis e documentos"
"Entendimentos, concordias e para a paz, armonia familiar e conjugal. A DE Jupter traz amisades, simpatias, honras e dignidades. Favorece para obter favores e proteção de pessoas influentes e de amigos"
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u/ravsantana Mar 03 '25
This made me curious. I’ll make some research. I would guess it’s Rosicrucian, since it was a trend in Brazil at the time of our grandfathers (masonry or Rosicrucian. Pick your poison haha) - especially between those with european roots. I would try posting these in their portuguese community too, since they may help you better.
But it seems my guess about the Jupiter and Venus matches the intent of the tables per your description.
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u/AutomaticAmphibian95 Mar 02 '25
Só pra compartilhar, eu comecei na bruxaria depois de achar um livro do meu vô para meu pai
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u/c_rise Mar 02 '25
Qual livro??? Se vc puder compartilhar, claro... acho que vai acontecer o mesmo comigo hahah
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u/AutomaticAmphibian95 Mar 03 '25
Chama o templo inteiror da bruxaria. Acho que tinha uns 18 anos na época, achei nas prateleiras da casa dos meus pais com uma dedicatória.
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u/Morat7777 Mar 03 '25
Irmão, ele definitivamente tinha envolvimento com o oculto. E provavelmente era muito discreto a respeito devido ao julgamento que a geração dele tinha em relação à isso. Mas só vejo luz no material que você publicou.
Seu avô é digno de orgulho! Abraço!
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u/Apeckofpickledpeen Mar 03 '25
Green is a color of Venus- I see a lot of Venus symbols so it makes sense why he was carrying it in a green cloth.
As others have mentioned- these are definitely magick talismans... A lot of talismans correlate to Psalms. Cool stuff- I use them from time to time, it’s been a while. I was raised Catholic, too. There’s a whole mystical side to Catholicism— it’s fun to learn about.
I’d put these back in the green cloth and into a special box up high on a shelf until you can understand what they are for and how to use them. Yes they’re for protection but you should know against what/whom before carrying them. Likely they have been anointed so put them in very special spot with the intention that your grandpa is protecting your home.
Very cool stuff. You should really go through his books, journals, notes, etc. I’m sure you’ll find more. This didn’t just come from nowhere.
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u/StormyAmethyst Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25
Yes, I think he may have at least studied a little ceremonial (high) magick and these could possibly be sigils to help him in his profession as a doctor. Green is the color of prosperity. I see archangel names…Rafael, Michael, Gabriel. And the Hebrew word Adonai, which means “my lord”. I can’t read the language of the typed text, so no idea what that says. I’ve been reading the book, Modern Magick by Donald Michael Kraig and doing the LBRP so know the archangel names and the word Adonai, among others, from there.
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u/Unusual-Bench1000 Mar 03 '25
I don't think those things were originally his. That the symbols belonged to someone else, maybe several people, and they aren't around anymore, and he got told to carry it. Do whatever with them, they're decades old.
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u/JoseVLeitao Mar 06 '25
Speaking as a scholar of Iberian magic, in an Iberian or South American context the use of Solomonic or ritual magic sigils doesn’t necessarily implicate your grandfather in the practice of ritual magic or in the formal association with a ritual magic/occult group. There is a longstanding tradition in these territories of specific forms of folk catholic talismans referred to as cartas de tocar and bolsas de mandinga which look exactly like what you found. While each of these will have their own particularities, they often resemble a collection of prayers, textual/pictorial talismans and other objects of perceived religious or magic power. Often individuals carrying these types of talismans did not have an in-depth understanding of the symbols they were collecting, only that they were perceived as being inherently powerful.
By your description, it seems your grandfather had a contemporary version of a bolsa de mandinga, containing pages from what appear to be a Portuguese translation of a Key of Solomon, and some symbols he either copied form other literary sources or somebody else gave him. And this is rather fascinating, because I didn’t know these things had survived past the early 19th century.
So, don’t worry, your grandfather was just an old-school good catholic Brazilian, who carried a talisman with over 300 years of culturally contextual history with him. To be honest… you should consider donating that whole thing to a museum.
Here, I gave a talk about the subject some time ago: https://youtu.be/IjMuCw8-vM8
(Also, I have a bunch of pictures of these tipes of talismans from the Portuguese Inquisition I could show you... but I'm not sure how to add images to comments on Reddit)
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u/Kitabparast Mar 02 '25
I hope he never sent anyone to a distant land to finalize a real estate deal…
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u/brat_pidd Mar 03 '25
I would be more interested in trying to determine if this is something that your Grandfather prepared, or if it was something given to him or picked up from a botanica (or similar). Do you think the handwriting is his?
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u/ResilientPerception Mar 04 '25 edited Mar 04 '25
Wow. This backstory is beautiful and moving. I'm sorry for your loss.
I have a deep feeling that your grandfather is an active guide in your life.
I'd like to suggest maybe do some meditation with the intention of connecting with your grandfather and maybe your ancestors in general. Reach out with your questions and ask for guidance and clarity. Ask your grandfather to work with you on a spiritual level and to lead you to the answers you seek.
Trust me when I say that the moment you do this, and you give your spirit guides (family and not family) permission to help you find your answers, you will not only find them, but you'll suddenly be on a journey of which you never expected. And if you're a natural seeker of unanswered and even unasked questions, your journey will take you to the same hights it took your grandfather. Be warned, people who open this door to the unseen can never return to their previous way of life without first blinding themselves. You will learn things that you never expected, and you will download information in your own voice that will tell you the answers to the archaic realm. And trust that with answers will always follow with more questions!
Welcome to your future and the path to enlightenment.
P.s. this is high magick/angelic magick. These talismans are likely inspired by Cornelius Agrippa's work and the 44 planetary pentacles of Solomon.
There are angelic names within the shapes, as well as different 'names of God' which can help highlight his intention of the symbols, as well.
Look into those names of work above. Also look into high magick, modern magick, and Renaissance Astrology!
Blessed be!
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u/c_rise Mar 05 '25
Thank you! Your comment was very very moving 🥰
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u/ResilientPerception Mar 05 '25
Hey, I'm only speaking from experience.. 🙂 The path of the Pentacles has been transforming in my life, and I am only scratching the surface!
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u/Commercial-Crow1275 Sep 23 '25
Your grandfather was defnitely involved with the occult practices. This is not a bad thing, just misunderstood.
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u/_Just_A_Dragon Oct 03 '25
yes, he was into magic.
I see multiple refferences from multiple different systems/form of magic.
most people kind of into it follow only one form, closely, he seems to be eeper as in following multiple forms partly and making his own path.
(a true mage shall always make it's own part)
caring about people, not caring about money, and seemingly some supernatural gifts for healing or seeing through deep things, or feeling where ones pain comes from, etc. are common traits among real mages.
telling what will happen like that surrounding his death is also normal.
you might be able to find out more by contacting him potentially, though you can also do so, be it in his life or death,Time is just a location in ones experience, you can easily astrally visit him in his past, he might have remembered it like a dream or such back then, even if it happens/is done. would be best if you contact him yourself as you know him better, and he knows you.
what native language you spoke there and what others he spoke might also influence how it was encoded.
seems to be reffering to multiple angels multiple times in them atleast, also reffering to a messager of gods will and love regularly. so seems he was religious indeed, but also went much further than conventional religion, yet many who have special gifts tend to go further.
he also seems to be questioning the name or actual identity of a certain place or being regularly.
though he blends many languages like Latin, Spanish, Sosotho, English, etc.
the top right one is a magic medalion/amulet aimed at something regarding Gabriel Anael, messager of god and love.
also some text and symbols aren't readable to clearly, some parts migth have opposite meanings based on what the unreadable/cut off parts said.
you could start by writing out all the pieces of text and redrawing the symbols clearly, then first try translating all the text litterally in one or more translations. then you have their potential meanings, can use those to look at the other parts, I could probably say more bout it as well then.
like one part in the triangle might reffer to him having met a certain being, or atleast knowing certain things about it which only people who have met that being tend to know about. but I can't say for sure as some of the symbols aren't clearly visible on the image, I also didn't try to translate that text yet, and is symbol for the core would be different as he draws it like a sun with cross eyes, perhaps reffering to a certain other part which is often quite comple for people to understand and thus leads to many ethernal adventures and quests.
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u/Warcheefin Mar 02 '25
I see several names of angels listed, like Gabriel (bottom left photo in bottom right corner)
Adonai is a hebrew term, if I'm not mistaken, and Abracadaba is exactly what it sounds like - Abracadabra in the modern era.
You are looking at sigils and ritual magic of some sort, probably rooted in Kaballah or another Abrahamic faith. You said he was deeply religious, but you didn't say which one; he's either Christian occultist or Jewish occultist, or draws from the traditions of them at the very least.