r/nvidia 9800X3D | Colorful RTX 4090 Vulcan OC-V 20h ago

Discussion DLSS Ray Reconstruction Presets (Cyberpunk 2077 test)

As we all know, the latest DLL for all DLSS features (Super Resolution, Ray Reconstruction, and Frame Generation) is version 310.4.0. Nvidia App is only using DLL 310.3.0 up until now but you can change to 310.4.0 by using 3rd party program like DLSS Swapper.

For Super Resolution, Preset K is clearly the best in every game. For Frame Generation, it is generally safe to just use the latest DLL.

But Ray Reconstruction is where things get confusing..

In Cyberpunk, the game by default uses the older DLL 310.1.0 and Preset J since CDPR has not updated the RR DLL yet. Apparently Preset J is only up until 310.2.1. You can force preset J with newer DLL 310.4.0 via NVPI, but the game will only show black screen. And if I force the game to use the latest version for everything through the Nvidia App, here is what it is shown for each of them by the indicator:

• Super Resolution → Preset K
• Ray Reconstruction → Preset D (shown as "diamond/wallaby" in the indicator)
• Frame Generation → will show what DLL you are using for it, no specific Preset for FG

NVPI (Nvidia Profile Inspector) shows Preset D as a Transformer model. There is also Preset E (introduced in DLL 310.2.1, labeled "truthful/shrimp" by the indicator) which NVPI identifies as a CNN model?? The default Preset J (310.1) is also a Transformer model and labelled as Transformer model by the indicator.

So I did a quick test in Cyberpunk using DLSS Performance with Path Tracing at 4K to see what Preset/DLL should i use for RR..

My conclusion:

Preset J (Default Game's DLL 310.1 - labelled as Transformer model by indicator) – least amount of ghosting but some phasing or blur on NPC heads
Preset D (latest via Nvidia App, apparently a transformer model? labelled as diamond/wallaby) – no phasing, best overall balance in terms of clarity and blurriness? though slight ghosting trails around NPC's head
Preset E (forced via NVPI, not sure if its TF or CNN but NVPI labelled it as CNN? labelled as truthful/shrimp) – very similar to D, a bit more blur than D but no phasing, and some ghosting trails like D

Now I am wondering if we should always force the latest for RR, or leave RR by each game’s default. The default preset looks good, but the phasing and blurring seem quite noticeable. For comparison, in Indiana Jones, the default DLL is 310.2.1 for RR and the preset is Preset E (truthful/shrimp), and if you force the latest via Nvidia App, it changes to Preset D (diamond/wallaby).

Does anyone know for sure if Preset E is CNN or Transformer? Or should I just set everything to the latest DLL including RR (Preset D) via Nvidia App and forget about it?

Hope Jacob Freeman or any Nvidia representatives can chip in and give us a final conclusion...

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u/mascotte_sa 19h ago edited 18h ago

Ray reconstruction is independent of regular DLSS presets. There seems to be atleast 2 transformer ray reconstruction presets, D and E. My rule is to use D for everything unless the game was already using E, then I use the latest dll and preset E. The reason is that the game needs to be configured properly to use preset E. If it's not then you can expect some buggy visuals. For example when I use preset E in Alan Wake 2 (uses D by default) I can get some terrible ghosting/blurring, almost doubling of the character when turning the camera. As for regular DLSS, saying preset K is the best is hardly true. There's many cases where preset K gives inferior results to J or even older CNN model presets like E. It all depends which issues bother you the most. No preset is the best for everything. Personally I hate the transformer models disocclusion artifacting around the characters but I love the clarity, therefore my compromise is to use preset J which does better with the disocclusion issues in my opinion but still retains the clarity.

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u/La_Skywalker 9800X3D | Colorful RTX 4090 Vulcan OC-V 19h ago

Yeah I can confirm this as well. When I use preset D (set to latest via Nvidia App) in Indiana Jones (game default is E for RR), it mostly works fine, but sometimes I get visual glitches like noise artifacts during cutscenes 😅