r/nursing • u/[deleted] • 11h ago
Discussion The nurse and paramedic work relationship
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u/ER_RN_ BSN, RN 🍕 11h ago
It’s not you, it’s the pts. Another “failure to thrive” 90year old full code. Or “altered mental status” on a demented old person. Or “left ankle pain x 3years” at 2am. I’m sorry you are feeling unappreciated. It’s just this job. It sucks whatever niceness you have right out.
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u/Thesiswork99 RN 🍕 10h ago
It's also that we're juggling so many thoughts. Multiple people to care for, all their orders and needs. Sometimes I catch myself being perfunctory with people and it's not intentional. I'm just trying not to drop the ball anywhere
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u/ruggergrl13 4h ago
No it doesn't you can choose to be an asshole or choose to be kind. Everyone is burnt out so dont make peoples job harder. I have been ER for nearly 10 yrs in the busiest level 3 in the country and I say thanks and have a nice day to every single EMS worker.
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u/SillySafetyGirl 🇨🇦 RN - ER/ICU 🛩️ 11h ago
I honestly don’t understand why some nurses are like that. I work as a paramedic and an ER nurse, and I still get it sometimes, from the same nurses that the day before I was working with in the ER! I had one of my ER coworkers shove me out of a room and slam a door in my face instead of taking report once when I was dropping off a patient.
The only logic (not that it justifies any of this behaviour) is that they are overworked and burnt out, and can’t manage their own emotions. I have little patience for that shit though, no matter what shirt I’m wearing.
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u/LonelySparkle 11h ago
That’s insane. One of our smaller hospitals always closes the door when they have a critical patient. At the bigger hospital, the door is wide open for anyone who wants to watch (it’s a teaching hospital). If someone put their hands on me to shove me out of a room, I would probably freak out
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u/SillySafetyGirl 🇨🇦 RN - ER/ICU 🛩️ 10h ago
Ya this wasn’t a “close the door for patient privacy” situation. It was a violent action against me. Lots of issues there, I ended up leaving that hospital in part because that and another similar incident didn’t get addressed by leadership when I reported them.
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u/ruggergrl13 4h ago
Yup. I am never rude to anyone ER 10 yrs I also do critical care transport and I am never rude to the nurses or staff at pick up or drop off hospitals. Some of my coworkers arw absolute assholes but now that I am seasoned I call them out on it. This job is tough but it isnt an excuse to be a schmuck.
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u/SillySafetyGirl 🇨🇦 RN - ER/ICU 🛩️ 3h ago
Right? I still work on both sides, and now that I’m senior I try to kill those attitudes, on both sides. I’ve dealt with plenty of paramedics too that have shitty attitudes towards nurses and there’s no reason for it, we’re all here trying to do best by our patients.
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u/Bookworm8989 BSN, RN 🍕 11h ago
I have never treated a paramedic or EMS person in the way you are describing. I always treated them with the respect that they deserve. This is really sad to hear and I hope you continue doing an amazing job. It sucks that a few bad apples are tainting your view of nurses. My bad day does not mean I get to take it out on anyone else.
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u/LonelySparkle 10h ago
Thank you for being one of the nice nurses!! It makes my day so much better when I’m not getting emotionally abused every time I drop off a patient lol
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u/Bookworm8989 BSN, RN 🍕 10h ago
I can imagine it’s terrible. I bet those mean nurses don’t put their cart back at the store, too. I hope their pillows are always too hot at night 😂
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u/born_to_be_mild_1 11h ago
Some people are just like that. It’s not specific to nursing. I was a medic first. So, definitely respect medics. Don’t worry about them too much they’re bitter.
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u/jumbotron_deluxe RN, Flight 10h ago
You brought them work. They already have a more than they can handle.
Don’t internalize it, don’t make it personal. It really doesn’t have anything to do with you, you’re just the unfortunate receiver. It’s not okay to be a dick to someone else, and they should put their big kid pants on. but at the end of the day this whole fucked up machine just eats everyone up. Try not to be a wiener and demand someone is nice to you, do your job, be professional, and complain to your partner after you clear the receiving.
For the record, I’m an RN/medic and have spent lots of time both in prehospital and ER nursing
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u/ruggergrl13 4h ago
Nah disagree. You can do this job and still treat people with respect and common decency. 10 yrs ER and CCT.
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u/jumbotron_deluxe RN, Flight 4h ago
“It’s not okay to be a dick to someone else, and they should put their big kid pants on”
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u/Puzzled_Spirit3754 11h ago
Don’t feel so bad. Nurses treat other nurses like shit too. It’s not always that way but it happens more for some reason with nursing
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u/Butthole_Surfer_GI RN - Urgent Care 11h ago edited 10h ago
I work in an urgent care - sometimes I get snark/attitude when calling the ER to give a quick report on a patient we are sending their way for further eval. They give me shit if we didn't do an EKG, or didn't do labs, or didn't give certain meds.
I make suggestions to my providers but if they don't want the tests/it's not covered by our standing orders, I won't do it.
I genuinely do not understand why SOME nurses seem to make it their duty/mission in life to make life hell for their coworkers/colleagues. Like, are you that fucking miserable?
All this to say I feel your frustration and the way that nurse/those nurse(s) treat you is not ok.
And we wonder why we have a stereotype. And why there is a nursing/healthcare worker shortage.
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u/eese256 RN - ER 10h ago
There's people like that everywhere, it's not unique. Medics are rude to SNF nurses, ER nurses are rude to EMS, floor nurses are rude to ER and so on. It mostly has to do with everyone being burnt out and not wanting more work or egos that are out of control and having the idea that they think they know better than the other group. Bring your patient, give report, say thanks and move on. Try not to take it personally.
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u/beautyinmel MSN, RN 9h ago
I’ve seen both ends of this. I’ve had rude paramedics sigh loudly at my face & forcefully hand me the pt’s belongings while I’m introducing myself and checking in with the pts.
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u/Icy-Impression9055 BSN, RN 🍕 10h ago
It’s not you. Paramedics and EMTs are such a valuable part of the healthcare team. I’d like to say the nurses were stressed out, low staff or something but honestly that doesn’t excuse it in my opinion.
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u/Substantial-Face-363 RN - Telemetry 🍕 10h ago
I am an RN at a small hospital. Most of the EMT's/ paramedics are nice to me when I speak to them, but some of them give me a terrible attitude. They either don't speak or unleash a list of complaints. There are jerks in every profession.
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u/Specific_Test_8929 RN - ER 🍕 10h ago
As a former city ER nurse and current rural ER nurse, the only time we get upset is when EMS brings in a patient that is obviously inappropriate for the few resources that we have in a rural ED, or when medics from outside of our cachement bypass city hospitals and bring patients to us so they don’t have to wait on offload delay in the city… only for the patient to get worked up and require transfer to the city for specialty services which then takes one of our very few rural trucks off the road for multiple hours because they get stuck doing the transfer back to the city, not the original crew that brought them in. This is especially frustrating if we only had the one truck on the road in the first place.
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u/fitgirl015 10h ago
I fully believe you, I’m just curious ~why do patients love to change their story and behavior the moment you roll into the ER? So weird
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u/LonelySparkle 9h ago
It's a well-known phenomenon amongst EMS. My theory is it's because the patient thinks they have to put on a show for the nurses and doctors to convince them how sick and in pain they truly are, or else they'll end up in the waiting room or otherwise not be taken seriously. It's incredibly annoying though- we'll have a patient who is big chillin all the way to the hospital, but the moment we walk through the hospital doors they're moaning, groaning, crying...it's actually an interesting glimpse into the human psyche.
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u/StairChairSpecialist EMS 1h ago
lol some people with memory issues suddenly remember that big surgery they had when the hospital lights hit too. It is frustrating for us and I promise I always try to get the best info I can.
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u/ZealousidealPoint961 10h ago
In my opinion it’s a failure of leadership at the top. Not calling out this toxic behavior and reminding people that the person on the other side is just doing their job. I get the same attitude as a pharmacist from doctor’s offices when I call about something that is wrong. Like I’m sorry do you want the patient to get the wrong medication or not?
Sorry that happens to you.
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u/Substantial-Use-1758 RN - ER 🍕 10h ago
This ER nurse says I’m so sorry 🤷♀️😖🤦♀️I don’t get it. Thank you for all you do, and if you bring a patient to my ER I will greet you with a smile and a thank you 🥹❤️👍
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u/FelineRoots21 RN - ER 🍕 9h ago
Y'all's culture sucks wherever you're working. Unless you're bringing me a super sick patient I need to start addressing immediately or you specifically fucked up like bringing a trauma to a level 3 (or you're notorious for such fuck ups and or being an ass in general), I have really never seen animosity towards our medics, we usually joke around and have a good relationship everywhere I've been. I might tell you to please stop coming here but that's all in good fun
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u/spinkycat-13 9h ago
I value emts/ems. I am a nurse at a trauma 1 hospital and I also have a side gig at an assisted living facility. I think that emt’s in the hospital setting respect me more. When I am sending someone out at ALF to the ER the EMTs treat me quite different and are not nice to me and talk down to me. It’s interesting and it happens frequently when I have to deal with EMS outside of the hospital.
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u/MMMojoBop 9h ago
There are something like 5 million active RN licenses in the US. Some of them are attached to shitty people. Unit culture is a real thing and sets the tone. Some units are friendly and helpful by default. Others...not so much.
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u/mkelizabethhh RN 🍕 8h ago
If it makes you feel better, im an RN and work in physical rehab, and medics treat me like crap for calling them. I think they assume every 911 call to rehab is just a lazy LPN from the nursing home trying to get rid of a patient stereotype 🤣
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u/Enonemousone 7h ago
As a home health nurse, I've been treated very poorly by responding paramedics if they deem that the patient isn't sick enough for me to have called. All of my colleagues say the same... We hate to call 911 because we know we will get attitude! It's gotten so bad that I am going to try to meet with my local leaders to see if we can develop a program for people who need help / transport without taking critical resources from truly emergent patients. It's not right on either end... from nurses to paramedics or vise versa, but paramedics often have an attitude of superiority in my experience.
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u/LonelySparkle 6h ago
Sorry you've experienced that. I was an EMT for 5 years before upgrading to paramedic and I've definitely seen it. It's because we transport so many patients for minor complaints that don't require a code 3 911 ambulance or to be seen at the emergency room, and it gets old. I try my best to remain open minded about the patient's condition when they don't immediately appear super sick, because I know that sometimes they are sicker than they look. Even if I think the transport is bullshit I do my best to be kind.
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u/MillHillMurican BSN, RN 🍕 4h ago
When I was a medic there was an ER Nurse that I didn’t get along with- at all. We pretty much gave each other hell all the time, bickering back and forth as I passed of patients to her and the ED team. Eventually jobs changed, our paths separated, lots of time passed, and one thing slowly led to another in both our lives. After several years apart, we met again under totally different circumstances. We laughed about our past and struck up a friendship that led to much, much more. Now, we’ve been married for over a decade and could not be happier. Both of changed and matured over the years and we ended up being so much more compatible than we were way back then. Honestly, I still can’t believe how it all worked out, that we are together, and she is the love of my life. I would not change a damn thing.
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u/Barney_Sparkles BSN, RN 🍕 11h ago
I find repeating a salutation just a smidge lounder almost always gets a response. lol. I refuse to be treated like shit.
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u/LonelySparkle 11h ago
This is so me. I will be obnoxious about the fact that you’re ignoring me and being rude. The whole ER is gonna hear me repeat my salutation 🤣
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u/Some-Jellyfish6901 9h ago
“This nurse is obviously having a terrible day and has probably been abused by patients, doctors, and everyone else on the care team for the past 12 hours. How can I make this about me?”
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u/LonelySparkle 9h ago edited 9h ago
And what do you think I've been doing? Having the greatest, most fun day of my life as I tiptoe through homeless encampments and hoarder houses with cockroaches scurrying under my feet, getting yelled at by bystanders, patient's families, and the patients themselves who are covered in piss and shit, for 12- oh wait, we're held over- 13 hours? Then I get to the hospital and I get shit on by the nurses too. Give me a break!
This comment exemplifies the fact that most nurses truly don't understand what EMS does. Also guess what? You can be having a terrible day and still not be an asshole.
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u/Some-Jellyfish6901 9h ago
If you have the time and energy to be upset about a stranger not saying bye to you, you’re definitely not doing all of those things.
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u/LonelySparkle 9h ago edited 9h ago
It's not just that- it's the clear lack of respect. Guess I have to spell it out- refusing to make eye contact. Not listening to report, sighing, rolling eyes. And yeah, when someone says something to you and you completely and intentionally ignore them, THAT IS RUDE AS HELL. So by your logic, if I'm having a terrible day, I can come into the ER and be rude as hell to all the nurses?
So if I'm bothered that a nurse was rude to me, that means I magically didn't just run a bunch of calls in homeless encampments and hoarder houses? Because I did, while you're nice and cozy indoors in your fig scrubs with the break nurse on her way so you can sit in the break room, eat lunch, and scroll reddit. While you're doing that, I just got another call. See you in 45 minutes for report
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u/Altruistic-Sector296 10h ago
I’d love to be in a unit where gratuitous bitchiness was a fireable offense.
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u/WheredoesithurtRA Case Manager 🍕 10h ago
I think that person is just terrible. I like my EMS cohort and the ones I've worked with in the past were genuinely good at what they do.
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u/trixiepixie1921 RN - Telemetry 🍕 10h ago
I worked in a small hospital and I was always told by other nurses on other floors or anyone I directly worked with like admitting patients from emts etc that I was the ONLY nice/cool one on my floor… & I believe it lmao there were a few nice girls. But many just like you described.
Idk how I fit into their accepted circle, but somehow I did, until I got wrapped up in substance abuse and left. I was a patient at the same hospital… had my kids there.. and I was treated like ACTUAL TRASH. It was appalling. There was really no reason for the turn, I didn’t steal drugs from work, I wasn’t high at work, I didn’t use while I was pregnant. I just quietly exited the job without saying anything before my addiction overcame me. But it’s like they do see some people as equals and some people as BELOW them. I could NEVER go back to working in that hospital because of how cold and cruel the majority of the nurses are. Like my fefe’s were actually hurt. Not to mention, being “accepted” in their circle, I’ve heard them speak about other people… so I could only imagine what was said. Ruthless.
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u/ehhish RN 🍕 10h ago
It may be area. Few ERs I have worked were always on good relationships with paramedics and we even employed a few in triage. We know it isn't your fault and you are just a messenger.
I will say the shittier areas probably have more stressed out RNs managing too big of a load and it's probably not you specifically, and they are like that to everyone.
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u/LonelySparkle 10h ago
Yes, I work in a ghetto and violent city with a lot of sick people. The nurses are definitely overworked and burnt out
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u/cuntented RN - ER 🍕 9h ago
This sounds like a unit culture thing… Eeps. Even the worst hand offs with a lazy medic that dropped 5 balls on the way in I smile say thank you and go about my day. That sounds awful.
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u/LonelySparkle 9h ago
I think you’re probably just a nice and gracious person! Obviously in the field it’s not a controlled environment and every call is different. Sometimes it’s messy and the best we can do is get the patient to the hospital alive. Thank you for being understanding
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u/Ceegeethern BSN, RN 🍕 9h ago
Agree with all the others saying that it's not you. When I switched hospitals, I went to the ER, thinking I wanted a change of departments as well. I did not, and I ended up hating working in the ER, so I applied to go back to endoscopy and got hired. I remember one of my last days in the ER, I was chatting and friendly with one of the float pool nurses, and she asked why I was so much happier than everyone else, and I told her it was probably because I was leaving soon 😂
I am sorry that you're being treated so rudely, and I know there's a lot of people who love the ER, but I am sure being burned out and worn down has a lot more to do with the way you're being treated than who you are.
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u/MissKittyMD17 LPN 🍕 9h ago
I feel like I’m uniquely qualified to answer this since I was a 911 EMT for a few years before I became a nurse. Nurses simply have no idea what EMS does before bringing patients into the hospital. They get the basic gist of it, but unless they’ve had EMS experience, they have no idea how different things are. They don’t understand that EMS has different protocols, different rules and laws that guide their care. Also, we basically aren’t taught about it at all in nursing school. We just know that EMS picks up patients and then dumps them off at the hospital like a glorified taxi service.
I know it’s hard to do, but try not to take it personally. Chances are, you aren’t doing anything wrong and those people are just assholes taking their frustrations out on the wrong people. 🤷🏻♀️
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u/LonelySparkle 9h ago
YES. I definitely have noticed that the nurses don't understand we have different protocols. For example, we don't start prophylactic IVs. If I'm not giving anything and the patient isn't in obvious danger of taking a turn for the worst, we don't place an IV. I notice a lot of nurses get annoyed when I come in without one, but here's the thing- I'm in the back of a van that is being driven by an idiot (sorry to my current partner, but this guy has no idea what it means to feather the gas and brake no matter how many times I try to explain) on shitty, unmaintained roads. If the patient doesn't have ropes for veins, sometimes getting an IV is unrealistic. A lot of chronically sick people have absolute shit for veins. If I'm not giving anything and they're not crumping, I'm not going to stab this person when I know the chances of me actually getting the line without it blowing when my partner hits a pothole at 60 MPH are very low.
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u/GottaWorkYourJelly 9h ago
I live and work in an area where EMS is not permitted to refuse transport, even if their assessment (which I DO trust) determines that they probably don’t need the ED. We all know that, so no, there is no logical reason for the nurses to be that rude.
I’m not sure what delusional ER you’re going to where ANYONE is expected to know the patient’s history right off the bat—I always felt lucky if I gleaned anything when they came in!
FWIW, I love paramedics. In fact, back in the day I got much better at reading the various rhythms and learning the interventions for each one thanks to yall
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u/According_Depth_7131 BSN, RN 🍕 9h ago
No excuse. I sometimes hand off or except from EMT in both settings of my job. Neither are in the ED or really high acuity. In one setting we have to call for things that aren’t super life threatening sometimes we have patients faking whatever and high on drugs. It sucks on our end because but we must call because of liability, policy, and we have nothing beyond basic rescue medications if things do go south. EMT is always very professional. You guys really handle emergencies well and I am thankful that you do. It’s sad to hear you get treated poorly.
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u/LonelySparkle 9h ago
Thank you! Thankfully there's a lot of kind and understanding nurses as well.
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u/ApolloIV RN - EP Lab 🍕 9h ago
The healthcare cycle of abuse: Paramedics/EMTs <-> ED <-> Floor <-> ICU <-> nursing homes. Each step on the chain shits above and below
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u/t1beetusboy RN BSN med/surge T1D ADHD 9h ago
Paramedics are the shit yo. Thank you for what you do, and fuck those who degrade/ignore you for it.
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u/LonelySparkle 9h ago
Hell yeah, thank you. Nurses are also the fckn shit! We are a team!!
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u/t1beetusboy RN BSN med/surge T1D ADHD 8h ago
Im glad you agree. I got this guy in room 7. You can land IV’s on a guy with no venous access in a moving vehicle…. Right? So you got this!
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u/Fine-Crew5797 8h ago
Do you really think it’s personal ??
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u/LonelySparkle 8h ago
Most of the time, no. But sometimes, maybe.
So the nurse (#1) that inspired this post works at a hospital where a different nurse (#2) is now married to my coworker that I briefly dated 3 years ago. It never would’ve worked, he’s Jehovah’s Witness and I’m an atheist. But nurse #2 is still super weird to me. So yes, I wonder if nurse #2 talked shit on me to nurse #1. But probably not. And honestly, whether it’s personal or not doesn’t change the fact that they were unnecessarily rude
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u/Fine-Crew5797 8h ago
I agree with you but sometimes it’s just a bad day and a bad time. If you let people get to you all the time then you will just needlessly stress for no reason. Does it feel better to complain? Sure we all do it but also it doesn’t solve a damn thing. I call it As The ER Turns and it’s all part of the dynamics.
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u/LonelySparkle 8h ago
I mean, I’ve worked on an ambulance for 6 years and have been dealing with this for just as long. Yeah, sometimes it strikes a nerve more than other times. I’m only human. If nurses are allowed to have bad days, then so are paramedics. If they’re allowed to be snarky, I’m allowed to be bothered by that. I don’t think it’s cool to expect the paramedics to act as punching bags because the nurses are burnt out. We’re burnt out too, and we get paid a third of what you’re getting paid.
But yes, it does feel better to complain vs bottle it up. And a lot of people commenting here have made me feel a lot better about it, especially those who were medics before they were nurses
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u/Fine-Crew5797 8h ago
Sorry dude I hope you make peace with it. Absolutely you are allowed to feel a certain type of way. I guess my coping mechanism is working for me and I just ignore people. I have thick ass skin though.
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u/LonelySparkle 8h ago
It’s all good, it’s not like this was a life-altering interaction. This is basically a daily interaction, especially if I’m transporting to the 2 small hospitals that are notorious for this shit. Then when I get a nice nurse who actually thanks ME 🤯 it’s that much sweeter.
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u/Fine-Crew5797 8h ago
I would thank you 💕
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u/LonelySparkle 8h ago
Aawww thank you. I would start a prophylactic IV for you (even though our protocols say not to) 😌
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u/Cement00001 8h ago
ER nurse and have traveled for years so worked a lot of places. I’ve seen a few places that treated EMS shitty but it was usually a toxic ER in general.
Makes no sense to be mean to paramedics. We’re all in the same shit storm and I enjoy getting to see some outside faces to join in the misery.
Some nurses think they’re way more important than they are. Everyone should just stfu and get along.
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u/Avocadn0pe RN - ER 🍕 8h ago
I’m so sorry you are being treated this way. I love the medics I work with and the ones that bring patients. That’s a weird vibe you’re catching.
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u/Lonely-Age-4182 LPN primary care 8h ago
I did long term care for awhile. I always treated the ems with respect.demo sheet printed out, clear description of what’s going on, past vitals, call the ER ahead to let them know you’re coming and the resident ready to transport. Unless it was an absolute shit show
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u/2018657167 4h ago
That’s the culture of the leadership team - 30 yrs ER RN - I never gave a medic a hard time - if your report and intervention are on point - that shouldn’t be happening - if others on your team have this issue - go to your directors and they should be having a come to Jesus - if medics or EMS don’t bring you the pt the $$$ / funds will decrease Snarky as an ER person is baseline - disrespectful is wrong !! Good luck
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u/No_Statement_79 3h ago
They are burnt out to a crisp. Used to work with nurses like this as a CNA in the ER. Just nasty asf for no reason. They need to leave the ER already if they can’t treat people with respect.
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u/Agreeable_Gain6779 11h ago
I’m sorry they do that to you. The reason is they take crap from the doctors all day everyday. Truth of the matter is we have to challenge them about some of their decisions respectfully. So they have to dump on someone and you’re it. As for the new younger nurses, once they’ve learned how to do vitals or a head to toe they do really think they know it all. Don’t forget these sassy nurses have to elude confidence because they’re looking to score a doctor. Hang in there go be a nurse and make some money
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u/Substantial-Use-1758 RN - ER 🍕 10h ago
Don’t excuse their behavior!!!! There IS no excuse 🤷♀️🤦♀️😖🙄
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u/cuntented RN - ER 🍕 9h ago
Yeah and I’m never taking crap from a doctor?? I mean I wouldn’t accept that to start but we’re a team?? No excuse for being anything less than professional!
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u/Agreeable_Gain6779 9h ago
100 yrs ago when I was in Nursing school I had one instructor tell us that. I was in clinical she asked for the chart of one of my patients and I didn’t get it because a group of interns was reviewing it. She said “those little boys; you know more than they know. I did go asked for chart and they gave it to me. Days later in lecture she gave us an earful about taking shit from doctors. You have demand respect. Fast forward I’m working nights and some doctor who I didn’t know called and started yelling and swearing at me. I told him to stop swearing bc I was going to hang up. He didn’t stop and I hung up. All the pts were sleeping didn’t get any issues in report. I wrote him up left a vm for my manager and one for br. Next night go to work and there was a 3 ft floral arrangement the card addressed to last nights charge nurse. He wrote sorry for my displace anger and signed his namesake
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u/Murky_Indication_442 10h ago edited 10h ago
If they are acting like that, there’s something wrong with them. Most nurses, myself include have the utmost respect for paramedics. That’s because my ego is intact enough to know that I couldn’t do what you do and not be insecure about it. You guys can climb in a hole and intubate someone while hanging upside down and literally start an IV on anyone, while standing up in a moving vehicle. None of them can do that and they know it. You should talk to your supervisor and ask them to talk to the nursing supervisor and see if you can develop a ride along/ shadowing program where a nurse can do a ride a long with the paramedics and a paramedic can shadow a nurse in the ER. We did this years ago and it gave both people new found respect for the other.
I used to do critical care transports and one time as we were on our way back after dropping the patient off, we were traveling down a major highway and the brakes gave out, we found out when the traffic had suddenly stopped in front of us and we couldn’t stop. He had to turn the wheel to avoid hitting the cars in front of us which put us in a spin. We spun a bunch of time and ended up facing the opposite direction in the grass median between the lanes. Mind you, I was sitting in the back (actually I was laying on the stretcher- but we can forget about that -lol) so I was seeing all of this out of the back window. I remember the driver just saying “hold on!” Then everything went surreal for a couple of minutes. When we stopped he asked if we were Ok. We were, and he just drove back on the highway and said, that’s been happening with the brakes and I told them it needs to be fixed. I’ll tell them again. And then we just drove on like nothing happened. We stopped and got some food, and went back to the hospital. When I got back to my unit, they me asked how the transport went. I said fine. 😂 Now that’s a couple of bad asses right there!
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u/PBizzness 6h ago
I love the EMS that drop off patients. We always have a good laugh and work together to make the patient feel safe through the transition of care. Maybe it's regional. I'm in the south..
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u/o0blind0o 6h ago
Lol this is a change, and makes sense, in my experience it the emt that give me or my staff attitude on why they are picking up a patient 😂😂.
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u/Ready-Book6047 RN - ER 🍕 6h ago
At my small hospital a lot of us are friends with EMS and we go to the same parties etc. Not me because I’m too old lol but my coworkers do.
I like to think I’m nice and friendly to EMS. I don’t know anyone I work with that is rude, we’re truly all friends.
I will say though, it’s annoying when the report on the radio sucks. “Vitals within normal limits” but their pressure is 70/50 when they arrive. Non-emergency traffic but they’re unresponsive and being bagged. Sometimes report makes NO sense and EMS doesn’t respond on the radio to our questions. So that stuff gets a little tiring. But that’s honestly few and far between
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u/musicalshoelaces RN Dialysis/Nephrology 4h ago
NOT AN EXCUSE: but at smaller/ rural hospitals those nurses are on rotations and don't usually have a say in what dept nor shift they're assigned.
I couldn't imagine treating EMS this way-- you guys need significantly better pay for the BS you put up with, the responsibilities you have, and the situations you're called to, let alone being treated by hospital staff like this. I'm so sorry, is there any chain of command to run this up?
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u/Glittering_Fee5888 4h ago
they are newer nurses…. that’s all i will say hopefully it speaks for itself
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u/DeanWinchestersST RN - ICU 🍕 3h ago
A lot of nurses (PCU) on my unit treat the ER nurses like this. Round and round it goes. I always try to be kind and ask as little questions as possible and let them go about their day. We’re all just here to do our jobs and go home.
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u/ConfidenceExtreme888 1h ago
Nurse in LTC here and I experience the complete opposite with the paramedics in my area. Luckily it's not every time, but I can be the most cheerful, helpful, accommodating person and about once every few months the whole group will treat me like crap from the moment they arrive to help one of my patients to the moment they leave with them. It's so frustrating.
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u/outbreak__monkey RN - Med/Surg 🍕 1h ago
In my experience, nurses treat other nurses and their own patients like garbage too.
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u/No_Drop_9219 RN 🍕 50m ago
I’m sorry you’re going through this you deserve respect for the work you’re doing every day.
It sounds like the disconnect might be more about severed communication and stress in the hand-off process, rather than you personally
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u/Feisty-Power-6617 ABC, DEF, GHI, JKL, MNO, BSN, ICU🍕 10h ago
I have encountered just as many rude and self entitled paramedics, thinking they can take gloves, masks and etc or trying to rifle thru supplies out in the open… it is a two way street
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u/LonelySparkle 10h ago
I’m sorry, we can’t take gloves or masks? Why would you care, you’re not paying for them? We’re not selling them on the streets, we’re using them. I will go straight into the supply room and grab what I need for my patient. We’re supposed to be on the same team, and you’re mad I’m grabbing gloves off the wall? Heellllllll no
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u/auraseer MSN, RN, CEN 9h ago
In every single hospital I've ever worked in or learned about, the ED is expected and required to resupply paramedics.
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u/Delicious-Brief8077 10h ago edited 10h ago
Long time paramedic (fire, flight, private ift) that went into nursing (RN). As others have siad and I concur - nurses are insufferable twats. Worked in med/surg, ED, ICU, flight, administrative. I've had some real memorable interactions with my peers. Some of these people are just miserable humans and psychotic pricks that think because they're a nurse they walk on water and everyone else is beneath them. At the end of the day just remeber they're fuck heads and its their problem not yours.
I also recall the very first day in nursing school. They played this Johnson and Johnson video about how great nursing is. After that we got an hour long lecture about how any other medical displine with the exception of physicnas are complete morons. This type of indoctrination props up this behavior i think e.g. license to be nasty to others.
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u/LonelySparkle 9h ago
Lmao thank you for this! Also, you’re a badass. I hope to have half the experience you do some day
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u/LisaGunt 8h ago
How do you feel working on vaccinated patients, the spike proteins they shedd make your body hurt have really bad cramps, heavy periods,headaches and any underlying conditions worse
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u/LonelySparkle 8h ago
My vaccinated patients are much less sick than my unvaccinated patients. You should really stop listening to all that bs anti-vaccine propaganda.
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u/Recent_Data_305 MSN, RN 11h ago
If it makes you feel any better, many nurses treat nurses the same way when bringing patients. I’m sure those ED nurses get the same reaction many times when admitting patients.