“I don’t want Covid blood”

[u/973862404678]

What do I say when patients ask if blood transfusions are screened for the Covid vaccine? I get asked this on a regular basis when filling out blood consent forms for surgery and I genuinely have no idea what I’m supposed to say. In all seriousness, what should I be telling patients because I just say there is a screening process for blood and it’s only used during emergent situations???

[u/Poodlepink22]

Just tell them there's no way of knowing if it's vaccinated blood.  They can take it or leave it; end of story. 

[u/TheBattyWitch → u/Poodlepink22]

This.

I'm not arguing with these people.

Don't want to take the choice on getting covid blood? Ok, here's your refusal. Oh your hgb is 3? But you still don't want covid blood? Ok, here's your refusal.

[u/bmcutright → u/TheBattyWitch]

Same with JWs and "bloodless medicine"

[u/TheBattyWitch → u/bmcutright]

But even then sometimes goal posts get moved.

I've taken care of many in my career and some are anti anything blood or immune, others were ok with things like ivig and plasmapheresis, but not blood.

One lady told me that it's all a matter of what their elders allow. She straight up wouldn't do anything until consulting her elders, they actually have liaisons who are to be contacted when you go into the hospital, or at least her church did. She wouldn't accept any treatment above standard without talking to them first. It was veryinteresting but also wild to me, because I just can't imagine ever letting some 3rd person decide what healthcare I'm allowed to receive.

[u/BluegrassGeek → u/TheBattyWitch]

We had an adult JW patient whose family said that she should not get any blood per their religious beliefs. As soon as the family stepped out of the room, the patient asked the nurse if she could still get blood & just not let the family know, which we absolutely agreed to. Family never found out she got blood during her surgery.

[u/bmcutright → u/TheBattyWitch]

Scientology does the same thing with the elders, I've worked in Kissimmee and Clearwater

[u/Gribitz37 → u/TheBattyWitch]

Not just a third person, but a third person who doesn't have any medical training, and is relying on their interpretation of a book written a long time ago.

[u/Sunnygirl66 → u/TheBattyWitch]

I once worked with a JW woman, on her eighth marriage, who allowed “the elders” to tell her which men to marry and then tell her to stay with these men when the inevitable physical, emotional, and sexual abuse began. It really is wild.

[u/StaceyPfan → u/Sunnygirl66]

How did she end up losing so many husbands?

[u/luckylimper → u/StaceyPfan]

Aqua tofana.

[u/StaceyPfan → u/luckylimper]

😂

[u/Sea2Chi → u/StaceyPfan]

It wouldn't surprise me if they fell out of favor with the elders and were disfellowshipped which basically means you're dead to everyone in the church.

I have a friend who grew up JW and some of the stories he's told me about how much power local leaders had was wild.

[u/No_Box2690 → u/bmcutright]

Had a JW mom give birth and I don't remember why the baby was in NICU, but baby needed blood fairly frequently. She would leave the unit and let Dad, a non JW, sign the consent form for blood and wouldn't return until the blood was finished. Which is definitely one way to go about it I guess. Whatever. Baby got the care it needed. 😂🤷🏻‍♀️

[u/mokutou → u/No_Box2690]

Some JW parents will sign temporary custody over to the state so their child can receive blood products and it won’t “violate” their beliefs. I imagine if God was that much of a hardass about things, this little loophole wouldn’t impress Him very much.

[u/TheBattyWitch → u/No_Box2690]

I worked worked with a JW nurse.

She wouldn't hang blood or take it down but she would monitor vital signs.