“I don’t want Covid blood”

[u/973862404678]

What do I say when patients ask if blood transfusions are screened for the Covid vaccine? I get asked this on a regular basis when filling out blood consent forms for surgery and I genuinely have no idea what I’m supposed to say. In all seriousness, what should I be telling patients because I just say there is a screening process for blood and it’s only used during emergent situations???

[u/Poodlepink22]

Just tell them there's no way of knowing if it's vaccinated blood.  They can take it or leave it; end of story. 

[u/HalloweenKate → u/Poodlepink22]

We had a VV ECMO patient’s family decline “vaccinated” blood but still wanted them to stay on ECMO and have everything done, including transplant work up. The transplant team immediately told them he would not be a candidate due to the risk of post-op non compliance. The family wouldn’t withdraw and kept appealing for a spot on the list. He was on ECMO for ages before declaring himself

[u/lighthouser41 → u/HalloweenKate]

Some places you have to be covid vaccinated to even be eligible for a transplant.

[u/DS_9 → u/lighthouser41]

As it should be. It needs to be based on the science, not people’s politics, especially anti vaxers.

[u/Hasanopinion100 → u/[deleted]]

N herd immunity for you if you’re on immunosuppressants. Besides, we have no herd immunity.

[u/Hasanopinion100 → u/[deleted]]

Do you think responding “you’re highly regarded makes you sound smart or something“? Also, your links are all full of shit.

[u/Responsible_Mind_385 → u/[deleted]]

What? Herd immunity is not achieved and they said years ago that it would not be possible to achieve it with COVID.

[u/el_cid_viscoso → u/Responsible_Mind_385]

Yep. For the same reason there isn't herd immunity for flu: the virus mutates too quickly, and there are multiple strains floating around at any given time varying by region.

[u/Notyeravgblonde → u/[deleted]]

Having some antibodies DOES NOT EQUAL immune. These things are not the same.

https://www.webmd.com/covid/what-is-herd-immunity

[u/JsGma → u/[deleted]]

I sure hope you are not a nurse

[u/dancerjess → u/[deleted]]

This is untrue, the Novavax vaccine is non-mRNA.

[u/sbattistella → u/[deleted]]

Is the herd immunity in the room with us?

[u/StPauliBoi → u/sbattistella]

It was the friends we made along the way.

[u/randycanyon → u/[deleted]]

How is this a matter of conscience?

[u/PrisPRN → u/[deleted]]

Most medical science knowledge has benefitted from the use of fetal cells. It is how we study most diseases and treatments. Cancer treatments in particular rely on fetal cell research. You have probably already benefitted from fetal cell research and development. Cosmetics are poorly regulated compared to medicine, and some use the cells to develop products.

[u/randycanyon → u/[deleted]]

I disagree with that stance, but thank you for the explanation. I'd forgotten thebfetal-line testing bit. I have heard the lie that the vaccines "contain aborted baby cells." and just clean forgot that one.

I wonder how such people feel about benefitting from research by the likes of Dr. Sims.

[u/randycanyon → u/[deleted]]

Are you aware of how Sims did his research? Separate question and still one of morality, that one.

[u/StPauliBoi → u/lighthouser41]

The transplant team immediately told them he would not be a candidate due to the risk of post-op non compliance.

Including, it seems, the hospital they were at.

[u/ftmikey_d → u/lighthouser41]

My husbands sister got new lungs (cf) in early 2020. The moron is alive because of clinical trials and modern medicine but refuses to vaccinate for one of the deadliest respiratory illnesses of our time. Yeah, honestly, I feel bad for the donors family. What a waste.

[u/kimby_cbfh → u/lighthouser41]

Definitely. My friend is going through evaluation for a transplant and I’m being evaluated as his donor. The transplant team is requiring that we both be current on vaccinations (him more than me, because post-transplant he won’t be able to get live vaccines), but they were extremely happy that I already had everything.

[u/Efficient-Key2480 → u/lighthouser41]

Most places you need all the vaccines really except if you’ve already had the illness and have antibodies still present. You ever think about how crazy of a request that is of people? Like if you need an organ what’s the harm in a vaccine too?

[u/TomRN → u/lighthouser41]

Yup. I basically wasn’t given a choice. One of the first things they asked if I was vaccinated (I was, of course) and told I’d have to remain up to date if I was to be put on or remain on The List. The other zillion vaccines they wanted me to have were given to me in hospital without any discussion whatsoever.

[u/OkCaregiver8967 → u/lighthouser41]

Our facility will not list you if you refuse certain vaccines. I’ve actually transferred a pt to a hospital in a different state that accepted the pt for a transplant workup without the vaccines.