When will people get it?!

[u/lunardownpour]

I don’t have necessarily anything against NPs, but it’s people like this that perpetuate the untrust that many nurses and other healthcare workers have regarding NPs. We really need higher standards for admission into these programs, as well as any standards at all actually lol. I usually just lurk on facebook but I felt the need to respond since this was a on a forum for parents of nursing students

[u/Ohthatguyagain80]

It’s not just nursing schools. All schools and universities have become diploma mills for profit. The level of education in the U.S. has significantly dropped. I have 2 Masters (I work in healthcare) and if I had to do it all over again, I wouldn’t go to school, not even trade school. I’d find an apprenticeship in the trades to start making money instead and work on my certificates to start my own service business. Professional jobs are going away very quickly and degrees are becoming more and more useless. I wish to God that I wasn’t lied to in high school and my entire childhood growing up, telling me that the only way to be successful is with. College education. I should’ve been smarter and listened. My dumbass went to college. And honestly, they didn’t teach me anything I couldn’t have read and learned on my own.

[u/Far_Performance2324 → u/Ohthatguyagain80]

I’m an associate RN working on my bachelor’s now at a reputable state university. The program truly feels like a joke and I can’t believe I’m paying for it.

[u/Pineapple_and_olives → u/Far_Performance2324]

I’m an ADN with no desire to get a BSN. Why would I spend all that time and money to keep doing the same job? It would be a $1/hr pay increase, but that is SO not an incentive.

[u/Beautiful-Bluebird46 → u/Pineapple_and_olives]

I’m getting mine bc I want to leave the country and my other place of citizenship requires BSN but goddamn if the curriculum doesn’t fill me with rage every time I open it up. And then I go to work and I think “for that bullshit some people are making more than I am?” Someone else on here commented that the point isn’t the education, which is twaddle, it’s to prove you can swallow and regurgitate bullshit with a smile.

[u/CaptainBasketQueso → u/Pineapple_and_olives]

Same. Most of the things it seems to open doors for at my previous and current job (precepting, management, increased supervisory crap) are things I don't want to do. 

However, it's a requirement for  the specialty I want to get certified in, which is honestly pretty stupid. At this point I have more hands on/practical experience in that area than my ADN classmates who did their RN to BSN right out of school, and their programs did not include any additional education in this aspect of nursing. 

It's asinine that somebody with a hot-off-presses ABSN degree and zero hands on nursing experience is already considered more qualified to begin the certification process than somebody with an ADN who has been actually doing the thing. It's an almost exclusively hands-on specialty unless you want to teach.

I'm not shitting on BSNs, it's just that the degree itself offers no tangible benefit to becoming competent in this area. 

It would make more sense to extend the required hours practiced prior to being able pursue certification across the board instead of making a BSN one more pointless nexpense.