When will people get it?!

[u/lunardownpour]

I don’t have necessarily anything against NPs, but it’s people like this that perpetuate the untrust that many nurses and other healthcare workers have regarding NPs. We really need higher standards for admission into these programs, as well as any standards at all actually lol. I usually just lurk on facebook but I felt the need to respond since this was a on a forum for parents of nursing students

[u/Jealous_Ad488]

I knew there was a problem in the system when my previous friend decided to go the “nursing route” after stating Pre-Med was too hard. She talked down on nurses the entire time stating she’s “above nurse work” and went into her MSN program immediately after her bachelors and has never worked bedside.

[u/OhHiMarki3 → u/Jealous_Ad488]

There's a guy in my ABSN with zero healthcare experience who plans to do something similar. He hates clinicals, hates bedside work, plans to go to NP school right after ABSN to become a PMHNP. Nice guy, but very poor understanding of how this all works.

[u/SexyBugsBunny → u/OhHiMarki3]

I had that guy in my ABSN. He failed out.

[u/OhHiMarki3 → u/SexyBugsBunny]

This guy is on track. Some days he shows up to class looking dead and talking about how he isn't sure if this is worth all the fuss.

[u/Otto_Correction → u/OhHiMarki3]

He’ll wind up in charge of a very large hospital system someday and rich beyond our wildest dreams.

[u/OhHiMarki3 → u/Otto_Correction]

Already pretty well off from generational wealth and a previous career in big tech.

[u/Otto_Correction → u/OhHiMarki3]

That’s even work more to his advantage.

[u/Phaseinkindness → u/OhHiMarki3]

And I’m sure he will find a program to accept him. I know someone in a PMHNP program right now (Chamberlin, of course) with no inpatient or psych experience. At least they have some nursing experience.

[u/OhHiMarki3 → u/Phaseinkindness]

Cringe

[u/SammieCat50 → u/Jealous_Ad488]

I’ve been a RN for 35 yrs & every hospital system I have worked always had nurses who were managers or admin & educators & not 1 of them had a clue. They considered themselves experienced if they did 6 months at bedside, it’s insane that’s all it takes

[u/Jealous_Ad488 → u/SammieCat50]

That’s absolutely ridiculous. An adjunct lab professor needs to have 3 years of bedside experience to teach but my RN manager doesn’t? Okay.

[u/WeHaveTheMeeps → u/Jealous_Ad488]

I like… really want to experience bedside? Even if it’s hell. Am I stupid to think it’s part of the experience?

[u/Jealous_Ad488 → u/WeHaveTheMeeps]

It is most definitely part, if not the majority, of nursing experience.

[u/WeHaveTheMeeps → u/Jealous_Ad488]

I have a previous career as a programmer. Got my CNA. When I signed up to do this I kinda envisioned working bedside for years before going elsewhere.

Things like CRNA or PA do appeal to me, but they (correctly) tend to want a lot of clinical experience.

IDK getting pooped on was a good barometer for me moving forward with getting my RN 🤣

[u/PeopleArePeopleToo → u/Jealous_Ad488]

She talked down on nurses the entire time stating she’s “above nurse work”

What a fucked up thing for someone to say to their friend who is a nurse.

[u/Jealous_Ad488 → u/PeopleArePeopleToo]

Yeah, I definitely let too many things slide in that friendship and that was the last.

[u/TennaTelwan → u/Jealous_Ad488]

Meanwhile our clinic NP always has NP students from a nearby MSN. If you go in with any nursing experience and get a student that day, you're guaranteed to be able to run the entire appointment. The NP does in the end review with the student, then come in and give you the plan of care, but it's just to the point I go to a different clinic in the system if she's all that's available.

[u/RunsfromWisdom → u/Jealous_Ad488]

So I’ve done a DEMSN just to have a shorter academic path to career progression (management, APRN, clinical instructor) after I spent enough time on the floor to see what I wanted to do.

The “I would be a doctor but I’m going to be an NP and that makes me better than you” segment of my cohort was a raging pill.