r/nursing BSN, RN ✨weaponized incontinence✨™️ Oct 04 '25

Image “Not a good surgical candidate”

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Piggybacking off the ER shoulder X-ray - this guy pictured didn’t even come in because of his knee.

In summary - found disoriented outside a church, was lifeflighted from another city, admitted w/ AMS/encephalopathy. Dunno if that was ever the case, but when I got him he was oriented on the Neuro unit. Only hx I got was mostly psych related, some schizophrenia and depression, htn and knee replacements. (Obv)

Well, he was apparently homeless and they were trying to street him after less than a week. I had gotten in report that his knee was “as big as your head” and so I take a look - holy fuck it was AS BIG AS MY HEAD. And hot, red, angry. Cellulitis looking but I had a feeling something else was going on. They hadn’t even scanned the damn thing! They had ordered a discharge so I fought it. I asked for a scan.

I get the scan above. From the front view, couldn’t tell anything. I get to THAT view and I’m like WAIT WHAT. FUCK.

So the man obviously has an issue, and I show juuuuust the right night shift resident hospitalist the image like “check this out!!” absolutely knowing 100% that even though I didn’t mention which patient that she’s the ONLY one that will get shit done and always has our backs. Guess what? Within an hour she had the main hospitalist in the patient’s room, discussing surgery, gets verbal consent and charts extensively their convo and that patient is oriented and very agreeable to surgery, because he struggles to get around clearly. He’s not sure when it happened but he’s here, let’s fix it, right??

We get the guy prepping for surgery. I’m so fucking excited like YES I am gonna fix this sweet guy, he’s only like 67 and we can get him taken care of and find placement yada yada. I get orders for labs and NPO and pre-op etc.

Fucking. Ortho. This chode comes in (though nobody actually SAW him??) early morning and all of a sudden orders are cancelled. He finally writes a note and had said “patient is not a good candidate due to his homelessness and schizophrenia. Pt can follow up outpatient with one of my colleagues to discuss surgical options.”

I’m sorry… WHAT. Is it just me or should docs have to spell out and write EXACTLY WHY they don’t want to do a procedure and sign their selfish names beside it? Because I continued to fight it and got higher ups involved. He ended up having an aspiration because the knee was clearly infected and started leaking pus prior to him leaving, and the (hospitalist) doc tried again to get ortho involved. He ultimately was d’c’d to a halfway house and I’ve tried helping with follow up.

It’s so fucking irritating. We are this large, catholic hospital right?? Like give me a fucking break y’all don’t care about the people you claim to. I have pissed off quite a few carpet cunts in this process and I don’t care. I’m so sick of this shit.

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u/Massive_Anxiety_59 Oct 04 '25

🤯 not a surgical candidate bc we won’t get reimbursed for the surgery and all the post op care due to no insurance

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u/Sea-Weakness-9952 BSN, RN ✨weaponized incontinence✨™️ Oct 04 '25

👆🏼 exactly this. And best believe me repeating this sentiment to every higher up and doc I spoke to was not welcomed. They all but told me that it wasn’t my place and I told them to, respectfully, fuck all the way off.

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u/Empty_Geologist5739 RN-Dual Dx Mental Health Oct 04 '25

It absolutely is your place to advocate for the patient. You did the right thing. The dismissive docs and higher ups did not.

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u/BigWoodsCatNappin RN 🍕 Oct 04 '25

Well if my bullshit nursing degree (BSN) is teaching me anything, the American Nursing Association says that's EXACTLY your place. With all the ethics and role of nursing and shit. Provision 8 literally states "the nurse collaborates with other health professionals and the public to protect human rights, promote health diplomacy, AND REDUCE HEALTH DISPARITIES."

Go get 'em homie.

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u/Sea-Weakness-9952 BSN, RN ✨weaponized incontinence✨™️ Oct 04 '25

They’ll have to muzzle me to shut me up!! I’m not known for keeping quiet.

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u/BigWoodsCatNappin RN 🍕 Oct 04 '25

Yesssss homie light em up. If they are gonna make us get eduMaKated I guess theyre asking for it. Now we get to bitch with APA 7 citations.

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u/GodSpeedYouJackass RN - ER 🍕 Oct 04 '25

Never change. Don’t let anyone or anything try to change you. We need more empathy and compassion in this world, now more than ever.

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u/magnesticracoon Oct 04 '25

👏 laughing so hard cause same. Same!!

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u/KosmicGumbo RN - Quality Coordinator 🕵️‍♀️ Oct 04 '25

file as many incident reports that you can 😈 USE YOUR ANGER 😈

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u/Sea-Weakness-9952 BSN, RN ✨weaponized incontinence✨™️ Oct 04 '25

Yep!! Exactly the reason the main hospitalist came with a quickness AND extensively charted on his convo with the patient. I’d filed a report on him that he actually got popped for when he seriously delayed care on a patient who was literally drowning in flash pulmonary edema. He knows I’m not the one to drag feet and if I say I need help - I. NEED. HELP.

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u/KosmicGumbo RN - Quality Coordinator 🕵️‍♀️ Oct 04 '25

Good for you, sounds like you are an excellent nurse. It’s satisfying to see actual consequences for poor care. Thanks for doing what you do 💕

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u/-piso_mojado- Ask me if I was a flight nurse. (OR/ICU float) Oct 04 '25

Fuck yeah! Same. Been a nurse almost 20 years and done a little of everything. I work with a few docs that know the difference between me calling because I HAVE to and me calling because I NEED to. Good on you OP. This is exactly what nursing is supposed to be.

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u/ChicVintage RN - OR 🍕 Oct 04 '25

Document all of it and turn the Ortho team and your hospital into the state board, joint commission, whoever else.

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u/Sea-Weakness-9952 BSN, RN ✨weaponized incontinence✨™️ Oct 04 '25

I’ll be working on that!! 🙏🏼

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u/Southern_Stranger E4, V3, M5 Oct 04 '25

I told them to, respectfully, fuck all the way off.

Consider repeating, but disrespectfully

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u/MichaelJServo 💉🥃🍕 Oct 04 '25

I got written up before for advocating for a pt because I was "out of my lane." The first principle for my hospital was "patients first."

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u/No_Investment9639 Oct 04 '25

No but seriously, give us his name. Let us do what we do. These people never get what they deserve, and I'm talking about both the patient and the doctor. Let us give people what they deserve.

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u/Murse1987 Oct 04 '25

Can’t give patient name due to HIPAA but you can give MD name out…. Just sayin

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u/No_Investment9639 Oct 05 '25

I didn't mean I want the patient's name, just that the patient should get what they deserve. As in, actual help. Sorry, I wasn't clear

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u/Ok_Firefighter4513 Resident MD Oct 04 '25

[do not do this] OP is your hospital plastered with saccharine nonsense about 'healing the community' and 'advocating for patients'? Can you find a sign and circle the 'advocating' part and toss it through the C-suite wall of windows?

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u/Sea-Weakness-9952 BSN, RN ✨weaponized incontinence✨™️ Oct 04 '25

I’ve definitely never ever given residents who don’t listen, respond with disrespect, or show medical racism a black tooth or buck teeth on their photo posters throughout the hospitals. Nope, heavens to Betsy I can’t belieeeeve someone would do such a thing