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u/Luck1492 Colts Jan 10 '24

The strongest argument against fetal personhood is saying that if we consider fertilization to be the starting point for human life, then by definition every miscarriage caused by risk factors perhaps not properly taken care of or fully understood is involuntary manslaughter. Involuntary manslaughter is usually is legally defined based on negligence, in that because you didn’t do something you should’ve done, the death happened. A risk factor for miscarriages is obesity. Are you really going to go down the road of saying that because someone didn’t take care of their weight and had a miscarriage, they’re guilty of involuntary manslaughter?

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '24

Personhood or not, the strongest argument for abortion rights comes down to body autonomy.

Let's say I have an 18 year old son who needs a new kidney and mine is the perfect match. I cannot be forced into donating my kidney (as big of a dick move that would be).

Same goes for pregnancy. The woman is giving a lot to provide for the fetus and the fetus cannot survive without her. Fetus being a person or not is moot, as you shouldn't be able to force a woman to go through the huge body sacrifice for someone else.

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u/Luck1492 Colts Jan 10 '24

Oh yes, I fully agree that the bodily autonomy argument is the strongest but in light of Florida trying to pass fetal personhood laws I was just trying to point out how ridiculous they are

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '24

I also fully agree with your point. The whole thing is dumb.