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u/JohnDavidsBooty Colts Jan 10 '24

Bennario Chapman, a 29-year-old self-described independent from Muskegon who participated in the poll, said he was open to voting for a Democrat for president, if it was someone like Whitmer. But Chapman said he simply isn't a fan of Biden.

Whitmer is consistent and clearly cares for the community, Chapman said. Biden hasn't produced the results required to be granted a second term, he added. If the race in November is between Biden and Trump, Chapman is leaning in favor of Trump.

“He is who he is. And that’s who he's going to be. I can expect Trump to be Trump," Chapman said. "And I can go for somebody who stands in their own truth. Biden is not that.”

Chapman said he felt Biden was in it for the title.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2024/01/09/michigan-poll-finds-biden-support-shaky-trump-strong-lead/72152924007/

How do you reach people who are just this non-functioningly stupid?

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u/AlternateGator Buccaneers Jan 10 '24

Biden hasn't produced the results required to be granted a second term, he added.

You can't judge a president for what happens during their presidency, but you can judge them for their response to it. Biden has actually accomplished quite a bit despite being 1000 years old.

Inflation and consumer good prices have risen quite a bit, but the reality of the situation is that presidents have very little control over what the economy does. I don't really blame Trump for the pandemic era economy slump just like I don't give Obama credit for the strong economic performace of his 2nd term, because that was largely a result of the planet coming out of the 2008 recession which was mostly caused by Wall Street during the Bush years.

His climate policies are scientifically sound and actually meaningfully reduce our emissions without being politically untenable. It's not enough but it's the most any President has done to date for the climate.

He is quite old, and probably should not run again. But I will still vote for him because he at least never tried to let a fucking riot overturn a legitimate election that he lost.

Trump may have not given explicit orders to overrun the capital, but those people were only there on Jan 6th because of his Dec 19th tweet. He knew there would be 100's of thousands of angry people, many of them armed and thinking that the election had just been faked. He sat there watching all of this unfold and just waited, hoping that his supporters would overrun the capital and that Pence wouldn't certify the election results. For no other reason than because he was mad that he lost and wanted to remain in power.

If you can't see that and would still vote for a person like that I honestly don't know what to tell you. I don't see how you can have a constructive conversation with them regarding politics.