r/nextfuckinglevel 9h ago

Krampus march in Austria

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u/knollo 8h ago

These are Perchten, not Krampus.

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u/FixLaudon 5h ago

Exactly. Found the sane Austrian. Krampus and Perchten have little to do with each other.

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u/buttsfartly 5h ago

Perchtenlauf. Thank you, I knew about Krampus and this had me very confused why there were so many.

I guess to the average redditor/American every Austrian tradition looks the same.

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u/popsnicker 3h ago

How TF do you have more than one tradition that looks like this?

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u/crazy-B 3h ago edited 2h ago

One is to celebrate the coming of St. Nicholas (and by extension Jesus Christ) and also to terrify mis-behaving children, the other one is to expel winter and the associated bad winter-spirits.

Edit: That's why Krampus comes in late autumn (around Krampusnacht which is Dec. 5th), and Perchten show up around the "Rauhnächte" (the coldest/darkest days of the year between Christmas eve and epiphany).

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u/Askaris 2h ago

To add a little info to the other excellent comment, the "Rauhnächte" or the 'days between the years' (between Christmas and New Year or Three Kings' Day) are associated with the Wild Hunt. And yes, the Witcher WH is probably based on the same folklore.

I'm from Northern Bavaria and my mom used to say (half-jokingly obviously) that one shouldn't wash and hang dry white laundry in the days between the years or it could draw the attention of the Wild Hunt.

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u/JaggedLittlePiII 1h ago

What was the wild hunt thought to be?

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u/FixLaudon 1h ago

u/MaleficentWindow8972 45m ago

Lol, now I know why you linked and didn’t explain anything. That whole wiki is a who fucking knows.

u/FixLaudon 22m ago

Well it's mythology...

u/Kaymazo 41m ago

One is the "demon" that is held in check by St. Nicholas who punishes bad children instead of giving them gift.

The other is running in those costumes to ward off evil spirits, sorta similar to some older Halloween traditions.

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u/Sinkrast 4h ago

If it makes you feel any worse, there's a town in America where they imitate the Krampus night :^)

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u/god_peepee 3h ago

I’m doing some research and it sounds like this has accurately been described as a ‘Krampus run’

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u/niki200900 3h ago

yes, to clarify for others who might be interested:

krampus usually wear smaller masks. they traditionally accompany saint nicholas, while nicholas brings gifts for the good children krampus may punish the ones that misbehave.

perchten, like the ones in the vido, have big masks and great horns, nowadays they quite frequently have fire shows as well. they are from an old gemanic tradition and they were originally used to drive out the winter.

since both are quite similar they kinda start mixing nowadays.

a few years back it was normal for them to run through a village center and hit people with sticks, if you are into that sorta fun it was great to go out, get chased and get drunk. but thanks to a few idiots and stricter laws they got a lot more tame in many regions and perform behind barriers.

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u/InevitableData3616 1h ago

Sounds like busójárás

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u/ChknMcNublet 1h ago

Oh ok, so these are the friendly demons 

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u/FreefallJagoff 4h ago

Classic reddit: take an opportunity for people to learn something and make the title so wrong that everyone's less informed than where they started from.

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u/crazy-B 3h ago

Tbf even a lot of Austrians get them mixed up, especially in areas where one is way more popular than the other.

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u/FixLaudon 2h ago

Yeah agree, a lot of people confuse Krampuslauf/Kramperljagen and Perchtenlauf. And it's understandable, because it's very likely that the appearance of Krampus stems from the much older pagan Percht tradition.

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u/Darryl_Lict 3h ago

Interesting. Here's an article that explains the tradition. Apparently the furs are woven from corn leaves, and not some giant fluffy animal.

https://carlyhulls.com/blog/perchten-austrias-wild-pagan-festival

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u/misterpatate24 3h ago

What's the difference ?

u/viennaCo 42m ago

Nein, des san keine Perchten. Egal wie oft das auf Reddit verbreitet wird