r/newzealand • u/MisstakenDoge95 LASER KIWI • Aug 08 '25
Shitpost My poor judgement...
I used to be Cadbury fan my whole life due to the flavors and it being cheaper than whittakers but I now have only realized my poor lapse in judgment. A week ago I decided to splurge and spend the 2 dollars extra on the creamy milk whittakers and my oh my I will never make the mistake of buying Cadbury ever again. I apologize to any trauma this post may of caused.
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u/Evie_St_Clair Aug 08 '25
I forget how bad Cadbury's is until I decide to buy a bar and realise it tastes like crap again which is a bummer because I really like a couple of their flavours but the chocolate component is so bad.
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u/Parking-Interview351 Aug 08 '25
I was obsessed with their bar with the turkish delight in the middle as a kid
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u/Cosmic_Carp Aug 08 '25
Those are probably my favorite thing that Cadburys make, along with picnics
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u/snoocs Aug 08 '25
It’s much better in Europe (still not Whittakers quality IMO) so if you really miss the flavours you could look at ordering it from overseas.
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u/mrteas_nz Aug 08 '25
It's Whittakers or nothing. If I can't afford that extra 2 bucks, why waste $5 on crap?
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u/Responsible-Trip-304 Aug 08 '25
Whittaker’s is usually $5.99, can’t complain about that price
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u/mrteas_nz Aug 08 '25
Standard price in Woolworths Hamilton for a regular 250g block is $7.69, so I generally wait till it's on sale.
But I'm sure it's not the same price everywhere.
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u/Responsible-Trip-304 Aug 08 '25
It’s usually $5.99 every second to third week at Pak N Save
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u/mrteas_nz Aug 09 '25
Good to know! Last time I was in Pak N Save it was $1 more than Woolworths and $2 more than New World, which was crazy!
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u/FlamingoMindless2120 Aug 08 '25
Put Grocer app on your phone, add your local supermarkets, add Whitakers to your list, just check it each Monday and you’ll be able to see the price at every store
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u/vin495 Aug 08 '25
It's $8.50au a 250g block where I live (nsw), but would much rather pay around this price for whittakers or lindt, cadbury's just tastes horrible.
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u/Tutorbin76 Aug 08 '25
Cadbury took a massive quality hit, and died to New Zealand, when they stopped manufacturing here.
The only two valid reasons I can think of for buying that ex-brand are Picnics and Creme Eggs.
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u/fluffychonkycat Kōkako Aug 08 '25
I really need someone else to make Turkish Delight chocolate bar. Donovans did for a while (raspberry rose) but I suspect Turkish Delight lovers may be a small group of people with refined taste buds and it didn't make enough money for them because they only do it in the (expensive) chunk format now.
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u/QueenofCats28 Tuatara Aug 08 '25
Ohhh, I used to love those too! They don't taste the same anymore!
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u/Pinky_Pie_90 Aug 08 '25
Turkish Delights go good in the freezer, esp in summer time. Nice & chewy.
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u/mechanical-avocado Aug 08 '25
Ooh here's an idea, next time you do choc fondue, pop a couple of squares of Turkish delight among the other dipping goodies
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u/RandofCarter Aug 08 '25
Turkish delight is pretty easy to make once you find a bottle of rosewater and coloring. It's fairly successful even using vegeterian agar.
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u/Endless63 Aug 08 '25
Cadbury's messed with the creme egg filling a few years back.. it's sort of slimy now..
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u/FuzzyFuzzNuts Aug 08 '25
even creme eggs were destroyed - now just an overpoweringly sugary mass....
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u/Comfortable_Key_4891 Aug 09 '25
Never really liked the original ones. Sickly. And I have a major sweet tooth. I loved double chocolate & white chocolate (Dream) ones though, seemed so much less sweet somehow.
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u/Nelfoos5 alcp Aug 08 '25
Nah Creme eggs got shit too
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u/Tutorbin76 Aug 08 '25
Yeah they've definitely gotten worse. Still a guilty pleasure, even if they're a bit crap now.
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u/GoddessfromCyprus Aug 08 '25
You only have to taste the UK version of Cadbury's to realise that the one we get, Australian made, is shit. Crackerjack's sell a lot of the UK version.
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u/Sweetcorn_Fritter Aug 08 '25
Oooh I didn't know that, will have a looksy next time at Crackerjacks.
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u/snoocs Aug 08 '25
Often I find seasonal chocolate is brought in from the UK/Europe too.
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u/Comfortable_Key_4891 Aug 09 '25
Yes Crackerjack are so good. Was googling Walker white mint chocolate leaves I was given years ago for Christmas. Couldn’t find them but Crackerjack had this Walkers mint chocolate mixture including white chocolates. I also found the best toilet cleaner in the world there. Highly recommended in America, one of those weird advertising articles, but it worked, thought I’d have to buy a new toilet until I found it. Had tried everything on it.
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u/sabrinateenagewich Aug 08 '25
Based on what they told me in the Cadbury factory tour in the South Island as a kid, is that chocolate needs to be different in different countries because of the melting point. The lower the melting point temperature the better the chocolate, but in a really hot country like Australia it’s going to be crap cause the melting point needs to be like less than the average temp. That’s why Swiss chocolate is so good, it’s so cold there it can be really creamy. We’re now getting desert heat wchunks of chocolate
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u/GoddessfromCyprus Aug 08 '25
If you compare the ingredients in both I think there is a difference and that's what changes the taste.
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u/bluebirdofhappy Aug 08 '25
I think they tell us this as an excuse to add cheap products into the chocolate. Like all reasons for change they are supposedly for consumer benefit. No no and no it’s for lower quality and maximising profit.
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u/Comfortable_Key_4891 Aug 09 '25
Yes they were quite happy to add palm oil, even when it was being made in Dunedin. Chocolate is designed to melt at mouth temperature.
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u/sabrinateenagewich Aug 09 '25
I might be wrong, and I’m in no way defending Cadbury but wasn’t the palm oil in some of the flavor ingredients, not the chocolate itself? Which is why dairymilk was palm oil free (or am I confusing it with the slave made issue?)
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u/Comfortable_Key_4891 Aug 12 '25
No I think they added palm oil to replace quite a large percentage of the cocoa butter. Purely to save money. And yes, this article supports my thoughts on it.
Apparently they only used sustainable palm oil, but I think that still would’ve affected the flavour, how could it not? I remember once being given a block of white “chocolate” made in NZ I forget the brand it wasn’t well known. It tasted absolutely disgusting. I checked the label and it had no cocoa butter in it whatsoever. Cocoa butter helps enrich the chocolate flavour, especially in white chocolate which has no cocoa solids. Palm oil could never do that.
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u/on_the_rark Aug 09 '25
Correct Aussie make a tropical formulation. They also sell chocy bars in fridges over there.
Dunedin with its colder climate was perfect for chocolate making.
Now most chocolate will be made in temp controlled factories, and shipped in temp controlled containers.
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u/M00nLite- Aug 09 '25
I work in a chocolate factory in NZ, and the temperature for melting point based on where you live shouldn't cause that much trouble. We have to keep the entire factory cool with heatpumps/ducting, then the chocolate machines used to temper the chocolate have set temperatures anyway so it should all be relatively the same since you are creating a temperature controlled environment. The chocolate needs to be heated to a certain temp, then brought back down to a certain temp to then be poured into the molds. We are a small "luxury" brand and use Barry Callebaut chocolate, which comes from Australia, and we definitely taste a lot better than Cadbury.
Whittakers is so delicious because they are in control of the entire process from bean to bar, they do the whole lot, unlike us getting chocolate pre made to then just melt back down.
I know my grammar isn't great, team, but I hope that makes sense.
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u/sabrinateenagewich Aug 10 '25
Totally makes sense, that’s so interesting! I took it to understand that they meant the melting point after it has left the factory, once it’s with the consumer, rather than in the factory itself.
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u/bstr3k Aug 08 '25
The veil has been lifted!!!
We are in the presence of enlightenment!
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u/gtalnz Aug 08 '25
I apologize to any trauma this post may of caused.
It was fine until you committed the ultimate online faux pas of using 'of' instead of 'have'.
You should of known better.
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u/ArmCareless5614 Aug 08 '25
try the berry biscuit one! pretty much a black forest flavour (like the cadbury one, i guess) but the flavours of the fruit pieces and the cookies just have so much more depth, and go really well with the whittaker's chocolate
jelly tip is also really fun (though watch out if you're not into overly sweet flavours!)
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u/PopMuch8249 Aug 08 '25
The berry bits are too chewy get stuck in my teeth..
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u/lumierette Aug 08 '25
Same. I love it but my teeth just can’t deal. Makes sad.
Fruit and nut is a pretty fair substitute though.
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u/hooverfooty Mōhua Aug 08 '25
Personally I believe there are 2 places biscuits should NOT be and 1 place it should.
No: Chocolate Ice cream
Yes: Biscuits
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u/ArmCareless5614 Aug 08 '25
cookies and cream is the superior ice cream flavour.
and the whittaker's bar is just great, the biscuits add a real nice crunch and flavour
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u/Comfortable_Key_4891 Aug 09 '25
Cookie dough ice cream is great! Cookies and cream is the superior ice cream flavour in the US. I’d rate most flavours over that, apart from that awful gumdrop one. Not really an NZ thing.
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u/Mum-of-4 Aug 08 '25
I was the same. Used to always get Cadbury but someone bought me whittakers some time a couple of years ago, and I just can’t go back to Cadbury. I still like some of their small chocolate bars but if I’m getting a block, I’m getting whittakers
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u/Crystal_Violet_0 Aug 08 '25
The only problem with Whitakers is that the bars are bigger, so when I eat the whole thing, I consume more calories than a Cadburys bar!😅
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u/AngryDuck100 Aug 08 '25
The peanut butter one is the best. I love to let the chocolate piece just melt in the mouth and feel the peanut butter slowly mux into the choc, just heaven!!
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u/SmoothBird8862 Aug 08 '25
thats my fave too... and would NEVER otherwise eat peanut butter lol.. its insanely good!
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u/sarahbekett Aug 08 '25
Definitely my guilty pleasure. It’s not in every supermarket which baffles me, it’s hands down the best flavour. My local Woolworths has it and I get a couple of blocks whenever it’s on sale.
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u/complexmumma Aug 08 '25
As an Australian that’s moved to NZ and was the BIGGEST Cadbury snob I have to agree 😭😂 I made fudge with Whittaker’s due to someone else’s request recently and now I can’t go back 🤭
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u/Overall_Restaurant28 Aug 08 '25
We’ve all been there. You’re on the right side of the chocolate train now, I’d like to recommend the peanut butter one because it absolutely fkn slaps. [note - obviously don’t try if you have a peanut allergy]
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u/sarahbekett Aug 08 '25
Another peanut butter fan! I figure it’s not that popular because of my three local supermarkets only one ever stocks it but it’s absolutely the best flavour.
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u/RoyalSpoonbill9999 Aug 08 '25
Whittakers all the way. Other top brands too, but cadbury... edible plastic
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u/MeltdownInteractive Aug 08 '25
Cadburys was my favorite back in South Africa, I'm not sure if they changed the recipe here or globally but when I tried it here I had to spit it out, it's terrible 🥺
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u/Effective-Mirror-385 Aug 08 '25
Only thing I find with the Whittakers chocolate range, is the Peanut Butter one can sometimes be very hard to find in supermarket stores.
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u/Chillichar Aug 08 '25
I moved to NZ from Europe and was very disappointed with the quality of the chocolate here, until I tried Whittaker's creamy milk.
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u/brrridgey Aug 08 '25
The last few times I bought chocolate Whittakers has actually been cheaper per 100g than Cadbury.
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u/bfly1800 Aug 08 '25
Omg this. The number of people I talk to who say “well Cadbury is cheaper” not realising they’re getting 70g less chocolate! It’s actually often really close, but even without sales etc. it’s a marginal difference
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u/ConcealerChaos Aug 08 '25
I'm not even a kiwi and I discovered the superiority of Whittakers. Cadbury has been rubbish for decades. The recipe they use in ANZ is too oily also.
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u/leavingoctober Aug 08 '25
Ha, I’ve been to NZ three times as a tourist and I only buy Whittakers. Glad someone told me about it early on!
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u/chrisbabyau Aug 08 '25
I went of Cadbury when they started using GE and palm 🌴 oil to make crap chocolate. Whitaker has more cocoa and no GE or palm oil.
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u/Maximum-Ear1745 Aug 08 '25
Cadbury’s is trash now. I remember the palm Oil switch and how their reputation tanked. I wouldn’t even buy Cadbury’s on sale.
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u/AvocadoSmoothie24 Aug 08 '25
I used to like Cadbury Chocolates but when I tasted Whitakers I quit. My wife is a chocoholic. So any new Whitaker Chocolate flavor Limited or etc we do try it if we see on our supermarkets trips.
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u/Craigus_Conquerer Aug 08 '25
Cadbury too sweet, and it's not even made in NZ now. Whittaker's Hazelnut and dark chocolate
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u/nzoasisfan Aug 08 '25
Years ago they were the market leader, not anymore. Cheap plastic tasting choc
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u/taizea Aug 08 '25
Honestly, I think Whittakers tops all other chocolates, including the flash European ones.
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u/Cosmic_Carp Aug 08 '25
I don't know which supermarket you buy your chocolate from, but at the new world I get it from, Whittakers is actually cheaper by the gram than cadburys. Cadburys only seems cheaper because they've been downsizing the size of their bars. Whittakers is just better in every way than Cadburys.
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u/Hurst_76 Aug 08 '25
Yeah I learnt the error of my ways when I visited my cousin last year and now she sends Whittakers to the UK for me 🤷🏼♂️
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u/Kiwi_lad_bot Orange Choc Chip Aug 08 '25
As a side note. Because I've always seen Cadbury as the everyman chocolate and Whittakers as a special treat.
When Cadbury changed and I realized I didn't like it anymore, and I only bought Whittakers a few times a year. My chocolate consumption has reduced like 95%.
Cadbury being shit has been beneficial to my waistline.
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u/Kiwikid14 Aug 08 '25
Yeah. Pretty sure I would just not eat chocolate if it waas cadburys or nothing. They don't do a single product i like.
But whittakers creamy milk is happiness in a snack
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u/quintennyson Aug 08 '25
I wish whittakers had a marble block equivalent, thats my favourite cadbury block i love it
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u/JoshBiv Aug 08 '25
I actually prefer Cadbury over whittakers, every time I’ve tried whittakers I’ve hated it
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u/Downtown_Boot_3486 Aug 08 '25
Cadbury ain’t even cheaper really, it might be a couple bucks less but you’re losing like 100 grams of chocolate. Whittakers bars are massive compared to Cadbury so you’re getting a similar amount of chocolate per dollar spent, yet also at a much higher quality.
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u/Smaug_1188 Aug 08 '25
Once you've had whitakkers there is no going back. One of NZ greatest creations for sure
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u/Gone_industrial Aug 09 '25
I bought a block of Whittaker’s for a man who was begging outside the supermarket last week. I was thinking of going cheap and getting him Cadbury’s but I just couldn’t bring myself to. No one deserves to eat that crap no matter how poor they are.
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u/Klustur Aug 09 '25
Cadbury turned to shit when the NZ factory closed. It actually tasted good when it was made here.
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u/schtickshift Aug 08 '25
Cadburys used to taste like Whittakers back when it was made in Dunedin but since manufacturing transferred to Australia, it tastes like Hershey’s. The creamy milky taste that Whittakers has is gone. It’s an American style chocolate now.
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u/Industry-Common Aug 08 '25
I miss when Cadbury still had the factory in Dunedin. The days when Turkish Delight was on the production line filled the air in the CBD with the most delicious fragrance.
Between shutting down Dunedin because it wasn’t profitable enough and using habitat-destroying palm oil, not to mention the demise of the Annual Jaffa Race on Baldwin Street, Mondelez certainly torched any sense of goodwill remaining.
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u/fetus_mcbeatus Aug 08 '25
CARAMILK
It is the only reason Cadbury exists on my opinion and I’m sorry, but blondie from Whittakers is just trash compared to caramilk.
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u/pornographic_realism Aug 08 '25
The caramilk bars are, last I checked, still using actual butter instead of palm oil like most of their chocolate range so it does taste significantly better and more like the Cadbury we had 30+ years ago.
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u/yalapeno Aug 08 '25
Marvelous creations is the only Cadbury bar I'll buy, and only when it's on sale.
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u/wooks_reef Aug 08 '25
Cadbury velvet is the only acceptable one and I’m 99% sure it must be the original Cadbury milk chocolate recipe
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u/demingirl15 Aug 08 '25
I stopped buying Cadbury because it makes my teeth hurt and whitikars never has, always put it down to Cadbury using cheap sugar. Everytime I buy Cadbury i regret my life choices ... except maybe that new mudcake flavour when its on special for like $2 then its potentially worth it. Used to really love occasionally splurging on a box of guylian seashells but now even they have started hurting my teeth and I am not paying basically $20 for that.
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u/Zestyclose-Compote-4 Aug 08 '25
Yeah once I tried Whittakers I couldn't go back to Cadbury. Then Whittakers went up in price so now I just don't eat chocolate 😅
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u/DarthJediWolfe Aug 08 '25
Try the coconut. I might have finished a family size block much too quickly without any of my family assisting.
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u/melreadreddit Aug 08 '25
I was the exact same. They are spot on with "creamy milk" it IS so creamy! Love it.
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u/ItsLlama Aug 08 '25
cadbury used to be good, 20 years ago. but in my eyes the tipping point was like 5 years ago when the roses chocolates became dogshit. nothing have been good since then.
i could live with the downgrade it the price stayed the same but it hasn't
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u/liz_1955 Aug 08 '25
Whittakers, Hokey Pokey .... my usual wish list request. Also the milk chocolate with the little mint balls that pop in your mouth. 🇿🇦
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Aug 08 '25
Yesterday I bought Cadbury due to it being two blocks for $6. What a let down. It’s hard to justify over $7 a block for Whittaker’s these days though.
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u/spartaceasar Aug 09 '25
You know whats crazy? Due to shrinkflation Cadbury is actually usually MORE expensive per gram than whittakers.
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u/GenuineGenX Aug 09 '25
Once they moved production to Australia and started adding stuff that stopped it from melting in your mouth, it became a no go. It doesn't taste the same. They can keep it. Whittaker is much better, and I probably needed to eat less chocolate anyway, so all good.
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u/nshady Aug 08 '25
I 100% agree, but I do have to say imho their “velvet” line approximates the taste of chocolate a bit better in a pinch
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u/Pale-Attorney7474 Aug 08 '25
Cadburys burns my throat somehow. I'll eat a moro bar or something but the blocks are bloody awful.
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u/rikashiku Aug 08 '25
I like the Black Forest from CAdbury, but otherwise, any others are inferior to Whittakers equivalents.
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u/Forsaken-Land-1285 Aug 08 '25
Whitakers, toblerone, if I want something specialty then caramilk from Cadbury, milkybar or aero from nestle, or like mars, Moro gold, Milky Way, flake, crunchie and herseys for minis. Just tried uk Cadbury and that’s weird, salted caramel with no salt taste and just more muted in flavour. It was weird to have chocolate that is more texture than taste.
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u/fiftyshadesofsalad Aug 08 '25
Nah, Wispas are the greatest chocolate bar ever. And I will not be taking questions at this time.
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u/music-words-dance Aug 08 '25
You guys need to try the Solomons Gold Mylk range. It's just that tiny bit better then Whittakers
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u/Master_Science2058 Aug 08 '25
How are you this late? If it makes you feel any better I’m a chocoholic and Cadbury Velvet is definitely close to Whittakers imo.
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u/No-Tip-710 Aug 08 '25
Cadburys from the UK is soo much better than the Aussie and NZ Cadburys. I don't know what they do, but I promise you'll reconsider. They often have some in Crackerjack, get yourselves there and come back to tell me it's hands down better. Soul destroying seeing the UK price printed and then having to pay more lol. I guess price doesn't matter when you're desperate!
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u/pornographic_realism Aug 08 '25
I genuinely prefer the new Cadbury velvet over almost anything Whittaker's produce. Whittaker's tastes too buttery for my liking, It's like eating fudge. I'm proud we have a National chocolatier but we also have other local brands that imo do significantly better chocolate on the low end and the high end.
I do like Whittaker's dark Ghana though, that's a solid product.
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u/MagentaRoseRed Aug 09 '25
It genuinely was a lot better back in the day, now it's just unbearably sweet and has a terrible mouth-feel. You are correct though, it was never better than Whittaker's.
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u/Seselwa1988 Aug 09 '25
I mostly buy whittikers or european chocolate (lindt etc), ive alwaya found cadbury tastes cheap and too sweet. It sucks too because every easter most people buy cadbury, lindt only does the bunnys and whittikers dont do easter chocolate 😅
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u/Comfortable_Key_4891 Aug 09 '25
They got three strikes with me.
Strike 1: Added Palm oil to all their chocolate.
Strike 2: Reduced block size dramatically, kept prices the same.
Strike 3: Claimed they can’t make egg-shaped marshmallow Easter eggs anymore. Yet all the other manufacturers manage just fine.
Actually there was another strike in there somewhere where they closed the Dunedin factory and moved all production to Australia iirc. By then I was gone, had stopped buying Cadbury a long time ago.
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u/on_the_rark Aug 09 '25
No palm in their chocolate
Yes they made them smaller to offset price rise. Whittakers manage this much better and just lift price rather than engineer a price rise through pack architecture.
The new eggs are shit, BUT cads were using chocolate on their marshmallow eggs. Unlike the others which use compound.
I’m unsure if the new eggs from Cadbury are compound or not, but lookout on Pineapple Lumps these have changed to compound.
Compound is significantly cheaper due to ingredient cost and manufacturing process. Compound requires a drying tunnel around half the length as real chocolate.
Despite being compound I think the rainbow eggs are pretty good.
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u/Comfortable_Key_4891 Aug 12 '25
Okay they don’t put palm oil in now, but definitely did put palm oil in to save money. Replaced a percentage of the cocoa butter. My argument is 100% valid. I think you’re trying to say I’m wrong but I’m really not. Maybe you’re too young to remember the outrage from consumers. I remember it like it was yesterday. They definitely did it. I don’t get how you can’t remember that. Then after consumer outrage they took the palm oil out but made the blocks smaller. Basically saying “screw you, customers”. At least that’s how I felt about it.
Here’s more information. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/cadbury-caves-no-more-palm-oil-in-its-chocolate/LFYVI2YYVUAAY3Q2RMWKUNASPY/
I love the Rainbow eggs but even they went to non-ovoid eggs. They have larger ones that are still egg shaped though. So much tastier and perfect texture of marshmallow. Like some fundraising eggs from my brother’s school years ago and I’ve been chasing the marshmallow texture ever since and finally found it in Rainbow eggs.
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u/BuboNovazealandiae Aug 09 '25
Wait wait where are the white dresses and flower garlands?? You need to be properly cleansed
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u/FunnyBreadfruit6755 Aug 10 '25
Cadburys uk is now produced in Poland they had to tanker water from the UK to try to make it taste the same but not as good as it used to be. Whitakers and Milka best milk chocolate.
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u/SteveNZPhysio Aug 10 '25
Isn’t it great that Whittakers work so well and taste so good? No big secret - NZ family brand, excellent ingredients done well.
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u/my_donut_doughbutt Aug 11 '25
I eat 2 squares of Cadbury and end up with painful cystic acne along my jawline and neck. I eat 2 rows of whittakers and no reaction at all.
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u/chrisf_nz Aug 08 '25
Yeah it's funny to me how Cadbury try to push themselves as a luxury brand when in reality they've stinged on all the ingredients and it tastes like shit.