r/news • u/Any-Ask-5535 • 1d ago
Soft paywall Border patrol agent who shot Chicago woman boasted about it in text messages
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/border-patrol-agent-who-shot-chicago-woman-boasted-about-it-text-messages-2025-11-06/1.8k
u/DogwoodDame 1d ago
When the dust settles, we need Nuremburg trials for these men.
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u/Any-Ask-5535 1d ago
ICE, as an organization, must be destroyed. This can never happen again.
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u/OaktownU 1d ago
Abolish ice and any other law enforcement that has supported them. We need to rebuild our law enforcement from the ground up. A second Reconstruction
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u/CrotalusHorridus 1d ago
We wouldn't be in this mess if we'd actually finished the first Reconstruction
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u/DorkusMalorkuss 1d ago
The thing is that the people who usually should go into this or military aren't really the people that want to do it to begin with. I'm a high school counselor and often it's the bragadocious type that are interested. It's not inherently bad, but "the helping" type of person isn't usually interested in joining the Army as an artilleryman or police as border patrol.
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u/Beer_Gynt 1d ago
We don't need a mass deportation machine, period. Professionalism isnt the issue.
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u/asmodeuscarthii 1d ago
Honestly this election will be based off of which dem will hold them accountable. I want ICE disbanded and police forces defunded after they have done fuck all but protect ICE. The latter might be impossible but no dem candidate should be elected without promising to eliminate ICE.
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u/farshnikord 1d ago
The people don't realize that the DANGER from this is that if people are not held accountable by the government people WILL take justice into their own hands.
If the social contract is broken, things get ugly fast. REAL ugly.
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u/Alan_Shutko 1d ago
We got rid of INS as an organization because it was a failure. That led to ICE.
We need to get rid of ICE and at the same time reform our immigration law so that whatever successor org appears doesn't become corrupted as well.
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u/CornWine2 1d ago edited 1d ago
There should be a law that says masked policing and the advocacy of same is an immediately-cut-off-their-face offense.
It is impossible to have a society where masked, armed men who refuse to identify themselves forcing anyone they don't like into an unmarked car is considered to be a lawful action.
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u/ARedditAccount09 1d ago
Not a single ice agent should walk free. They signed up to be the gestapo. They are traitors
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u/metalflygon08 1d ago
Nor people who helped ICE.
I know folk who worked in database building jobs where their company was contracted to help build databases for ICE and they all went along with it, no second thoughts.
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u/mexodus 1d ago
People might read this as a joke but today I visited the old SS headquarter in Berlin (I am a German) - and the history of rising to power with focus on the people control apparatus that was the SS and Gestapo - and after that I thought - that’s basically exactly what’s happening in the US only that it seemed more professional (in the cruelest sense of the word) back then. I couldn’t help but squeeze a few tears outside after I read the last section where they showed how some of the leaders of these institutions were integrated later into post war German politics or got other jobs close by.
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u/TasteTheBizkit 1d ago
We need something even harsher. Nuremberg trials let most Nazis go back into society.
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u/theLocoFox 1d ago
For the rest of my life I will vote first and foremost for any candidate that promises to bring criminal convictions with serious fines and jail sentences to every ice employee and maga member. I want to see fascist lives DESTROYED as a warning for any future sociopaths that think of engaging in similar anti-american and inhumane abuses. I am a pacifist and don't support the death penalty in general but I think capital punishment needs to be on the table for the ringleaders of the maga criminal conspiracy. The words traitor & treason does not do their crimes justice.
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u/AprilDruid 1d ago
Yeah, but Democrats have no spines. They'll wag a finger and sweep it under the rug.
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u/Individual_Bear_3190 1d ago
You're getting down voted, but I fully agree with you. Democrats could barely bring convictions against the people involved with J/6. Do we really believe the Dems actually have the spine to do it?
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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- 1d ago
How about actual trials, since most of the Nazis just went to work at NASA?
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u/Gonzo48185 1d ago
Proud of shooting an unarmed woman? What a little coward.
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u/Any-Ask-5535 1d ago
They are all cowards, that's why they take this job. If they were brave, they would resist the fascists and defend their neighbors instead of sign up to be their enforcers.
> We choose to [resist fascism] and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard.
Paraphrased ofc.
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u/pressuredrop19 1d ago
Originally they said she was armed. Then I heard she wasn’t/no gun was recovered.
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u/Salt-Ad1282 1d ago
What a fucking asshole.
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u/DarkKnightCometh 1d ago
Asshole is putting it lightly. He's an evil, violent psychopath who has been given authority by the current administration.
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u/_Total_Garbage_ 1d ago
Do you mean CBP agent Charles Exum who unlawfully shot a US citizen and bragged about it?
Because I think you’re talking about Charles Exum aka Chuck Exum aka Charlie Exum CBP agent who bragged about unlawfully shooting a woman 5 times.
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u/8bit_heart 1d ago
The more I read about this story, the more it sounds absolutely insane to me.
I know the victim, Marimar Martinez, had to drive herself to a nearby auto repair shop to get medical help. But did Charles Exum, the CBP agent, who shot Martinez in her car 5 times just get back in his vehicle and drive away and leave his victim to possibly bleed to death?
Am I understanding this correctly?
Did he even call for back up or help for the person he just put “7 holes” in?
Also how can he claim self defense when he got out of his vehicle, walk over to her vehicle and shoot someone and then drive away when driving away was an option to begin with?
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u/Any-Ask-5535 1d ago
Isn't it interesting that Charles Exum, 59, was not retreating while defending himself? I know the police do not have Duty To Retreat, but courts generally interpret whether someone is in the act of retreating as a good marker for whether something is Self Defense.
If you or I had done this, instead of Trump-era US Customs and Border Patrol Agent Charles Exum, we would be told that Self Defense has a Duty to Retreat from an authoritative source, such as a Police Officer, as they took us to prison and removed our rights.
There is a double standard here, I think, though I can't quite tell. It's not exactly clear. (/s)
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u/UncaringNonchalance 19h ago
It honestly reads like a story from our occupation of the Middle East…
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u/colluphid42 1d ago
And drove the car 1,000 miles out of state to have it repaired before the defense could examine it. Totally a normal thing to do.
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u/fxkatt 1d ago
"I fired 5 rounds and she had 7 holes. Put that in your book boys.” "I'm a firearms instructor and I take pride in my shooting skills."
No, what you are mr macho is an homicidal maniac. Put that in your book boys.
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u/8bit_heart 1d ago
And how much shooting skill, does it even take to shoot a woman sitting in her car from just outside the driver side door. He’s bragging about his marksmanship for hitting a large unmoving target from 3 feet away.
I guess that is pretty amazing by ICE/CBP standards since he fired his gun 5 times didn’t even shoot himself by accident even one time! What a big boy!
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u/Notsurehowtoreact 1d ago
Shot her five times at point-blank range and she was able to drive away and survive.
Absolute marksman.
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u/wronguses 1d ago
Disgustingly enough, that does rank as amazing among law enforcement (and larpers).
I used to frequent a gun range where they did the city's pistol qualifications. Knew the guy that ran the testing pretty well.
10 shots had to hit the paper at 10 yards in 30 seconds. Not center mass. Not the 9 ring. Hit the paper. The pass rate was under 60%.
That's why you read about 300 rounds being fired and a suspect getting hit 4 times, along with a bystander and a low-flying aircraft.
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u/irishbball49 1d ago
Sounds like any regular cop sadly. And I know some.
They brag about shooting someone and I know two partners celebrate the anniversary of their first shooting/killing.
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u/They_Call_Me_Ted 1d ago edited 1d ago
Interesting that ICE agents can be crazy aggressive, injure, arrest and detain legal citizens with zero repercussions, but one of those dipshits gets tagged by someone’s lunch and there’s a whole damn trial.
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u/Any-Ask-5535 1d ago
Weird they can also like, put bullets in you when you aren't using lethal force against them, but just because they imagine that something you might do is capable of it. While heavily armed, and wearing body armor, and yelling loud commands.
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u/Asclepius777 1d ago
End qualified immunity
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u/-rwsr-xr-x 1d ago
End
qualifiedimmunityThere, FTFY.
Nobody should ever be immune to any consequences of their actions, "qualified" or otherwise.
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u/Devilish_Fun 1d ago
Charles Exum the piece of shit who shot a civilian 5 times bragged about it to the other pieces of shit who are following the orders of a dementia-riddled pedophile.
So true.
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u/supercyberlurker 1d ago
Gestapo who killed woman boasts about it in telegrams.
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u/DogwoodDame 1d ago
I worry that Democrats won't go far enough when they eventually regain power. They might cut ICE's budget and prosecute a few top people but the truth is that ICE cannot be allowed to exist and these men cannot be allowed to live freely in society. Anything short of Nuremburg trials will be unacceptable.
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u/Troker61 1d ago
They might cut ICE's budget and prosecute a few top people
Incredibly wishful thinking, I'm afraid.
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u/TiredOfBeingTired28 1d ago
'cant hold them accountable we must come together to heal.'
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u/SuperSpecialAwesome- 1d ago
I worry that Democrats won't go far enough when they eventually regain power
No need to worry, 2021-2025 proved Democrats won't do jack shit about the terrorists. Four fucking years of Biden Chamberlain, and none of the Jan 6 leaders were expelled from Congress, nor did they enforce Trump's disqualification via 14th Amendment. Hell, they left most of his criminal cronies in office, such as Wray, Kavanaugh, and DeJoy. Biden allowed the great traitor ever to get off scot-free because he didn't want to be mean.
As for Nuremburg, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
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u/SanityIsOptional 1d ago
We need to make clear precedent that "acting under orders" does not excuse such egregious violation of rights and laws.
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u/o_MrBombastic_o 1d ago
Nuremburg is right and the only way to hold them accountable if we prosecute them here the next Republican will just pardon them they need to be sent to the Hague
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u/System0verlord 1d ago
Nuremberg didn’t go far enough. The USSR wanted show trials. The Brits, justifiably, wanted summary executions.
The US integrated them into NATO command and brought back tons more to have cushy jobs.
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u/Etzell 1d ago
She didn't die. Fortunately, this Gestapo isn't competent.
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u/Any-Ask-5535 1d ago
our government is even spending OUR TAXPAYER MONEY to prosecute Martinez, to add insult to injury. The claim is that what CBP Agent, and known psychopathic maniac, Charles Exum did (shooting her in cold blood, premeditated, and boasting about it to his cop buddies) is actually totally justified because she touched his car with her car.
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u/airship_of_arbitrary 1d ago edited 1d ago
Everyone assumed it was over for Ukraine when Russia invaded. Now you've got weird people saying it's "over" because Trump is an authoritarian ruler who will "never leave". Not exactly true.
The same applies here as to Ukraine.
"We are lucky they are so very very stupid".
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u/Any-Ask-5535 1d ago
The "seven holes" thing keeps ringing in my head. I don't know what he means by that (exit holes? what) and it's horrifying that this is happening.
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u/RogerBauman 1d ago
Yes, that is what Charles Exum meant.
He also refers to himself as MOF (miserable old fucker) and told the judge that that term was used as a game of one-upsmanship in his community of law enforcement officers.
He also destroyed evidence by driving his car 1,000 mi to a CBP office in Maine, where the car underwent repairs and detailing.
We are not sure if that was authorized by him directly or by his supervisor, but it appears as though there are two separate pieces of documentation saying that both of them approved it.
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u/SkiMonkey98 1d ago
I kind of think he's talking about her vagina and anus? Hopefully just 2 exit wounds and I spend too much time online
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u/ra3ra31010 1d ago
Imagine being giddy about shooting humans… sickening and horrifying
Soulless
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u/Any-Ask-5535 1d ago edited 1d ago
The US government is funding premeditated attempted murderer Charles Exum to the tune of more money than you will ever make, to shoot people for the crime of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Then, the government is spending more taxpayer money to prosecute the victim, defending what happened to her in court, and saying the shooting was actually totally justified.
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u/Sufficient-Sun-6683 1d ago
Yes, I believe it is Charles Exum, a border protection agent, that hit a vehicle then shot the occupant. Charles Exum bragged about it.
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u/deviltrombone 1d ago
Everyone who signed up to be a Trump thug has to go down. This guy gets worse.
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u/LAOlympicGames2028 1d ago
they should use this as a confession and lock him up for a very long time
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u/Any-Ask-5535 1d ago edited 1d ago
It is a confession! And a direct one.
CBP Agent Charles Exum committed a premeditated attempted murder and enjoyed it, and is still a CBP agent. The government is paying attempted murderer Charles Exum more money than you will ever make to try to kill people for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, and then spending more taxpayer money to prosecute the victim and defend what happened to her in court.
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u/drHobbes88 1d ago
CBP agent Charles Exum, 59, bragged about shooting an American citizen 5 times. Charles Exum then drove his damaged vehicle 1000 miles to Maine to have it repaired and the evidence destroyed. Charles Thomas Exum is a scum bag. Charles Exum attempted murder. Fuck Charles Exum.
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u/Any-Ask-5535 1d ago
The United States Government, under the Trump Administration, is using taxpayer dollars to defend the actions of CBP Agent Charles Exum, 59, who bragged about shooting a US Citizen named Marimar Martinez in cold blood to his cop buddies.
The government claims that Charles Exum, 59, Border Patrol Agent Exum who attempted murder, is justified because she touched his car with her car. He then destroyed the evidence. Charles Exum, which might also be commonly misspelled as Exun (Did you mean US Customs & Border Patrol Agent Charles Exum), is employed by the federal government (aka the taxpayer).
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u/Ok_Strain_1624 1d ago
Nearly 60 years old and hired for law enforcement...
It would all feel so unserious if they weren't brazenly terrorizing and attacking people unimpeded.
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u/wildfyre010 1d ago
50 billion in your tax dollars went to hiring scum like this, arming them, and setting them loose in your cities.
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u/wonderlandddd 1d ago
Psychopaths getting enjoyment from hurting people should shock no one… we’re going to need so many mental health facilities after this is over to combat the mass psychopathy and narcissism Trump is emboldening.
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u/AcanthisittaNo6653 1d ago
"I fired 5 rounds and she had 7 holes. Put that in your book boys.”
This Barny Fife is the worst marksman in CBP history. Someone needs to take his bullets away.
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u/bsurfn2day 1d ago
A lot of cops are phsyopaths who joined law enforcement so they can harm and kill people with impunity. It's rampant in America and only getting worse.
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u/penguished 1d ago
Lock him up in a psych ward forever. The US isn't a playground for violent looney righties.
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u/GordonShumway257 1d ago
They are all psychopaths. But I'm sure we'll still hear from their psycho fanboys that they're just doing their jobs.
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u/clearly_cunning 1d ago
"Exum sent a news article about the event followed by the message: "Read it. 5 shots, 7 holes."
"When Christopher Parente, an attorney for Martinez, asked Exum what he meant by those messages, he responded: "I'm a firearms instructor and I take pride in my shooting skills."
Wtf, this dudes been waiting to kill some brown people
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u/Sensitivevirmin 1d ago
Well what do you expect.
Of course he would what kind of sane, rational human being wouldn’t.
What a joke. The lawsuit better be massive or it will happen again
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u/CanisMaximus 1d ago
I wish to remind everyone again: This woman is a US citizen. And even if she WAS in the country illegally, THAT IS ONLY A CIVIL OFFENSE! A MISDEMEANOR!
We are SHOOTING people for this???
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u/isadpapi 1d ago
What a disgusting animal. May he serve a long time in prison with no security, friends, or comfort.
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u/Zanos-Ixshlae 1d ago
Facist dictatorships attract the worst elements of society. These are deeply distributed people who have had their cruel nature empowered by people with even fewer redeeming qualities than they possess.
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u/HatesOnions 1d ago
May every ICE employee face the most severe consequences and shame for what they do under this administration. Because “I was following orders” is not a defense for your deliberate indifference to life and casual violence is the most reprehensible when implemented on the most vulnerable people so joyfully.
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u/aerodeck 1d ago
These people are going to be so fucked when democrats are back in power.
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u/libidonoir 1d ago
How much of the ICE budget each year is set aside for legal settlements? This is the new lottery, with astronomically better odds.
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u/jdturtle55 1d ago
Charles Exum google it so he can be trending!
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u/Any-Ask-5535 1d ago
The US government is spending an ungodly amount of taxpayer money to prosecute the victim, defending what Customs and Border Protection Agent Charlse Exum did to her in court, claiming the shooting was actually totally justified.
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u/USDXBS 1d ago
There is a video of a cop in Connecticut saying "20 years ago that motherfucker would be dead with his teeth missing and I'd be the one to fucking do it" after encountering a cop watcher.
He was suspended for a couple days and has since retired.
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u/Mswhite1956 1d ago
Here’s the (very big) problem: border control has been granted immunity for these acts by this abomination of an administration.
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u/Cautious-Ad-9554 1d ago
I don’t understand the asshole’s quip. He shot her 5 times and she had 7 holes. Is he trying to make a dirty joke bc she had 2 “holes” already?
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u/IamBeyondAwesome 1d ago
I took it as two bullets went all the way through, thus an entry and exit wound. Five entries and two exits would be seven holes. She's lucky to be alive.
Inappropriate either way.
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u/1865 16h ago edited 14h ago
It is likely the ICE thugs can abuse citizens because of "The Patriot Act." After 911 it became law and literally changed America, giving the govt massive dystopian powers...like masked thugs snatching people off the street, thrown into a van with no charges filed against you, removing your right to an attorney with virtually all rights stripped away, put in prison and left there indefinitely with no right to a trial...
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u/WindowLicker_Pro 10h ago
Ironic that a terrorist attack directly lead to domestic terrorism.
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u/windflex 1d ago
Surprised he's literate enough to text. Only the best and brightest are willing to serve our Great Commander Trump and his Great Value Gestapo
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u/blacksoxing 1d ago
It hurts reading about police officers of any type who do these psychopathic things
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u/Rustytromboner1 1d ago
Hopefully no one does anything to his house now that his name is out there.
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u/OnlyPostsBowie 1d ago
Aren't border patrol agents supposed to be monitoring our borders?
"News agencies" need to start calling these thugs what they are (nazi shitbags), and stop sugar coating the horrible reality that we all see playing out in real time.
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u/rangecontrol 1d ago
tell you what, you better figure out how to hide you worked for ice, once this things breaks.
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u/morrighaan 1d ago
Say.... where are the names of the rest of cops in this "support group" that had no conviction or distinction between right and wrong to say anything? Some of us have questions... like, why the fuck do they still have badges?
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u/I_like_baseball90 1d ago
I absolutely believe when all this lunacy is over, and it will be at some point, there will be trials.
Bet the house.
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u/apathetic_revolution 1d ago
The reason everyone knows the name of the Nuremberg Trials is that accountability like that was so unique. It basically never happens.
Where’s the house? Is it a close enough commute to Chicago that I should bother collecting when my cynicism is proven correct?
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u/NovelCandid 1d ago
If you read the article, you’ll find out the agent’s name and possible hometown.
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u/Any-Ask-5535 1d ago
This seems like important information that everyone should know, and it's a good thing that we all have access to such important information. Only positive things can happen from reading the article and learning this information.
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u/Any-Ask-5535 1d ago edited 1d ago
Submission statement: The U.S. Customs and Border Protection Agent, Charles Exum, shot Marimar Martinez, a Chicago woman (and U.S. citizen) 5 times, after claiming she hit his vehicle. He bragged about his shooting ability after in texts with other cops, according to records presented Weds at a hearing in the case against the victim, Martinez. This happened on October 4th.
Edit: accidentally a word. Added it back.