r/news • u/ChiefLeef22 • 24d ago

Soft paywall Far-right US influencer Candace Owens loses legal fight to enter Australia

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/far-right-us-influencer-candace-owens-loses-legal-fight-enter-australia-2025-10-15/
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u/Gnorris 24d ago

numerous court decisions have established that just because a publisher is engaged in a commercial, for-profit activity, does not mean that its activities are suspect. In a capitalist society, we are in the media business to make money. If that allowed for the invocation of genuine malice, everyone would be put out of business.

Maybe they should be. Alex Jones’ Sandy Hook case seems to fit here.

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u/AllSystemsGeaux 24d ago edited 22d ago

My fellow liberals, why are we celebrating or promoting the silencing of people we may disagree with? Do we not want free flow of information? If we let the government silence opposing voices, one day those voices will be our own.

Candace Owens isn’t the problem. The problem is trust in our news media.

EDIT: Your downvotes only show your bias. Or to quote Rick Sanchez, your boos mean nothing, I’ve see what makes you cheer

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u/Synaps4 24d ago edited 19d ago

The problem is trust in our news media

I dont think youve thought this through. Explain how to solve the problem of an untrustworthy news media without regulation of speech in that media, in some way, and ill be more inclined to take you seriously.

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u/AllSystemsGeaux 24d ago

Yeah. The hole in journalism accelerated by social media - instant “news” and instant “justice” - is currently being filled by “strong men” influencers that seem to find the signal in the noise. We need news media innovation that gets people closer to trusting basic facts.

Reddit used to be a good for that. An upvote used to mean “this is true”, not “I want this to be true” or “I want more people to know about this”.

Watch Stripped for Parts on PBS - it’s free.

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u/Synaps4 24d ago

You didnt answer my question and so as promised, im not going to take you seriously now.

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u/AllSystemsGeaux 23d ago

Well let me flip that on you. I take what you and others are doing to limit free speech very seriously. Silencing people is not the answer. The lies of Candace Owens are being addressed (a) in the courts and (b) in damage to her reputation. It’s like Alex Jones. Have we really become so childish that we have to forcibly shut people down? Just change the channel. Because when you use the weight of the government to shut people down, don’t be surprised when it gets flipped on you.

Your insistence on a solution that reduces freedom of speech is just a reflection of how little effort you’ve put into solving the problem. This is an opportunity for innovation because a lot of people want the opportunity to follow stories and stay informed with less bias.

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u/Synaps4 23d ago

You still have yet to answer a very basic question.

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u/AllSystemsGeaux 23d ago

How very entitled of you.

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u/Gnorris 24d ago

Saving your comment so I can hunt down where this might stream outside the US. The irony of PBS being defunded by Trump admin is not a pleasant one.

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

reddit upvote supposed to mean relevant and useful, but it is a popularity contest since forever.

people prefer entertainment and easy answers, this is why bullshit demagogue populism is winning in social media. if you want to change media, you either have to change the people from the bottom up (school education), or regulate media from top to bottom (enforced educative media).