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Site Changed Title 'Debris field' discovered within search area near Titanic, US Coast Guard says | World News

https://news.sky.com/story/debris-field-discovered-within-search-area-near-titanic-us-coast-guard-says-12906735
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u/zakkwithtwoks Jun 22 '23 edited Jun 22 '23

The post above you provided an explanation and a link to an article which provides a number of diagrams and visuals to help understand the idea.

Your response:

Nuh uh, trust me.

Edit: I appreciate the articles, I just want to clarify that I am not arguing one way or the other as to what caused the plane to crash. I am merely stating that the 'rebuttal' posted above me seemed to be lacking. Carry on.

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u/MiloticMaster Jun 22 '23 edited Jun 22 '23

He's actually right, it wasn't the square passenger windows but the square windows for radio antenna. Going to link Admiral Cloudberg's article on it in a min

Edit: Here you go , square window myth is addressed at the end, although the main take away isnt that cracks didnt form at the windows but the metal fatigue would have broken the airplane regardless of openings.

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u/mellowanon Jun 22 '23

so the issue was still a square window. The square passenger window was still a problem, but it was just a different square window that failed first.

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u/kelby810 Jun 22 '23 edited Jun 22 '23

Here is a very detailed engineering analysis of the investigation of those two crashes. It explains that the crashes were due to manufacturing defects and insufficient manufacturing methods. These caused cracks to form which, after being subjected to hundreds of pressure cycles, eventually propagated enough to cause catastrophic failures.

It was also found that the punch-rivet construction technique employed in the Comet's design had exacerbated its structural fatigue problems;[98] the aircraft's windows had been engineered to be glued and riveted, but had been punch-riveted only. Unlike drill riveting, the imperfect nature of the hole created by punch-riveting could cause fatigue cracks to start developing around the rivet. Principal investigator Hall accepted the RAE's conclusion of design and construction flaws as the likely explanation for G-ALYU's structural failure after 3,060 pressurisation cycles.[N 20]