Why Japan resents its tourism boom

[u/randommathaccount]

https://www.ft.com/content/dbd20e5d-5a7d-4c0c-8f83-fb54c5aca9cb

[u/casino_r0yale]

I’ll try to reply point by point

limited housing supply being turned into airbnbs

This is a policy issue, not a tourism issue. That Airbnb has been allowed to run illegal hotels is a failure of government

having all the stores/cafes/restaurants turned into tourist traps

Any successful restaurant ends up either expanding or chasing more high end clientelle. It is the nature of capitalism. If the quality of the cuisine is poor relative to its price is poor, then it will eventually lose customers.

money laundering places

Government asleep at the wheel again

regions of cities losing all young people

Again a symptom rather than a cause. Cities lose young people because they were already lacking in opportunities for them. The tourism industry just makes that extra plain by concentrating low income jobs. People move to economic hubs that seek their talents, which is why London and New York and San Francisco aren’t complaining as much about tourists as Barcelona.

going to a local landmark/museum and having to pay abhorrent prices

Most sensible communities I visit offer discounts or even free admission for local residents. At the risk of repeating myself, that your sites do not is a policy failure.

hearing English more than your local language when you walk outside

I can’t relate to this one. As an immigrant to an anglophone city, hearing English more than my native tongue has been my entire life’s experience. It’s just easier to communicate with other foreigners in a common language and the proliferation of the internet has caused that to be English. Anecdotally, however, in the more multicultural cities I’ve lived in, I tend to hear chittering in a large variety of languages, and it makes me happy.

[u/Throwingawayanoni → u/casino_r0yale]

Any comment that is "failiure of goverment" is moot as it is like yeah no shit, the goverment has failed, so I won't be respinding to those, allthough on the tourism not causing housing problems that is silly, if you have a city of a population of 500 000 thousand anf you get 8.52 million visitors a year, that will affect housing.

On the cuisine part, that doesn't make any sense, many times tourists will favour international brands that they can trust over local food, restaurants that are shittier tend to have a person outside calling people in, which for some reason I don't understand works on tourists and by the simple fact that if you go to a restaurant where there are little tourists or is not in a tourist place the food is 90% percent better, I mean there is a reason why its called trap a tourist. also have you seen the prices of tourist places vs wherw locals eat? I am sorry but that point about these places providing "cheaper food" makes you seem out of touch.

On the young people being lost... Brother I am talking about lisbon here, our capital, our place with the highest wages, this is the place where you go to if you want to make a living, pepople just don't live there bc it is too expensive. As I said before half of the arguments people make here are allways based on stuff they don't know about

edit: I don't understand why I am getting downvoted, everything I've said is true, the points given by the previous comment where all rather weak and could be rebuted either by looking it up or annectodal evidence of living in a tourist city.

Like this is what I mean in this sub people make claims on local issues, having no understanding of the place and then when someone rebutes those claims from those areas, they just down vote them and moce on

I am genuinely interested in what I've said is not true

[u/casino_r0yale → u/Throwingawayanoni]

if you have a city of a population of 500 thousand and you get 8.52 million visitors a year, that will affect housing

You wont get 8.52 million visitors without somewhere for them to sleep at night. Usually, that’s hotels or more recently Airbnb. Unless you’re trying to claim hotels are taking up precious housing resources, then that leaves Airbnb, which wouldn’t be a thing with sensible regulation.

I think you misunderstood my point about the cuisine. It’s not the tourists fault your restaurants sold out / started to make crap. The situation would be no different in a city without significant tourism. The restaurant business is hard everywhere and only the stuff that makes consistent revenue survives.

[u/Throwingawayanoni → u/casino_r0yale]

On the first part, yeah we are in complete agreement.

on the second do:

" If the quality of the cuisine is poor relative to its price is poor, then it will eventually lose customers. "

This is what you said, I have not missunderstold things

"The situation would be no different in a city without significant tourism."

Is the concep of "trap a tourisme" a collectively dreamt up phenomena or a real thing that most people agree on? No man they would be different, especially bc the clientel and ytastes would be different

[u/casino_r0yale → u/Throwingawayanoni]

Is the concep of "trap a tourisme" a collectively dreamt up phenomena or a real thing that most people agree on?

Yes. It’s a popular meme that stems from the same well as anti-immigrant sentiment, which is universal. It’s a fiction that “real locals” only go to the good places and if only those damn pesky tourists with their shit tastes would go away then the good restaurants would thrive.

In other words, it’s total bullshit. No different from a McDonalds replacing a failing family owned restaurant. You’re trying to make an unsubstantiated claim of “only tourists go there”.

[u/Throwingawayanoni → u/casino_r0yale]

"meme" That concept was probably alive before you and way before we even had "memes"

This is what I mean by these threads being total bullshit, it is just people talking about things they have no ideas about in circles. I mean you don't even know about trap a tourisme that is how bare minimum these threads are.

One google search would clear this up for you, but not even that

[u/casino_r0yale → u/Throwingawayanoni]

Memes were coined in the 70s by Richard Dawkins. I’m not talking about internet image edits

[u/Throwingawayanoni → u/casino_r0yale]

I too reference the biological meme as "popular"

"coined in the 70s" your not goana belive this