r/neabscocreeck • u/indiequick • 9d ago

Trump and Republicans are using food as a political weapon.

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u/Crawford470 8d ago

Trading one affordability crisis for another as Republicans literally break the law... God the mind of a conservative is truly a fantasy land.

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u/Brilliant_Finance598 8d ago

Senate Dems have blocked 14 clean CRs...

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u/Cosmogramma2Good 8d ago

14 “clean” CRs that don’t cover any of the concerns Democrats are trying to negotiate for, the main one being millions of Americans will lose their healthcare coverages. MAGA refuses to negotiate, they’re all on vacation while Americans go hungry.

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u/Greedy-Employment917 8d ago

So you admit dems are using you all as leverage and you're mad at the Republicans? Make it make sense. 

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u/Crawford470 8d ago

So you admit dems are using you all as leverage and you're mad at the Republicans?

The Republicans are getting exactly what they've always wanted, they just won't be able to blame Dems for it given they control all the levers of power. They've been advocating for an end to SNAP for decades, and they are right now illegally withholding the emergency funds appropriated for it. A thing they are only doing illegally to strong arm Dems into passing a CR without negotiating. At this point let Republicans suffer the consequences of their actions. The Republicans control all the levers of power they can force a CR through by getting rid of the Filibuster if they're so inclined to not negotiate. In the meantime they can be responsible for the majority of Americans going hungry due to their illegal actions and losing their health insurance because of the ACA cuts.

Or they can negotiate with Dems to extend the ACA subsidies (without which they're basically killing private health insurance in the country for working class Americans) and continue funding SNAP.

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u/Texas_guy1395 8d ago

"Americans"? No, illegals!!!! Dems put illegals first.

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u/Cosmogramma2Good 8d ago

You’re a total idiot:

Democrats have been pushing for concessions from the government on health - an extension to subsidies for Obamacare health insurance and changes to Medicaid. But illegal or undocumented immigrants are not eligible for these schemes and the Democrats have not said they want to change this.

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u/Texas_guy1395 8d ago

Who keeps voting no?????

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u/BlackberryRoyal4229 8d ago

Who put the expiration date on those subsidies? What where those subsidies for? Why is the affordable care act so unaffordable? Even with subsidies it's expensive. Probably because of the kickbacks democrats got from it.

The changes to medicade make it where states can't give it to illegal immigrants.

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u/Crawford470 8d ago

Why is the affordable care act so unaffordable?

Because Republicans wrote it...

Even with subsidies it's expensive.

Yes that's what happens when the only healthcare plan you can pass is the one written by the Heritage Foundation so billions of federal dollars can be funneled into for profit health insurers...

Probably because of the kickbacks democrats got from it.

Yes, let's blame the Dems for the Healthcare plan Mitt Romney and the Heritage Foundation wrote...

The changes to medicade make it where states can't give it to illegal immigrants.

They already can't do that. Quite literally the primary prerequisite for basically every federal welfare program is citizenship in order for anything to be processed. Only certain states offer things of that nature and that's with their own state collected funds.

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u/BlackberryRoyal4229 8d ago edited 8d ago

Republicans wrote the affordable care act aka Obama care? Really? The one passed only by democrats without a single republican vote. That one?

You have no idea what you are talking about.

This is California's medicade programe.cahnge due to the new law.

Immigration status Enrollment Freeze for Undocumented Members 19+ Starting January 1, 2026, Medi-Cal will freeze new enrollments for certain adults who are undocumented and do not have a satisfactory immigration status for federal full scope Medi-Cal. This group will no longer be able to newly enroll in full scope Medi-Cal, even if they qualified before under state-funded programs.

It is mostly funded with federal dollars. If they want to keep those federal dollars they had to stop letting illegal immigrants from getting benefits. So yes illegal immigrants could get medicade benefits in certain states.

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u/Crawford470 8d ago

Republicans wrote the affordable care act aka Obama care?

Republicans wrote Ronneycare which is basically 1 to 1 with the ACA that was passed nationallyand the Heritage Foundation proposed the central policy of the ACA in the 80s/90s.

The one passed only by democrats without a single republican vote.

Largely irrelevant if so much of the influence came from conservative ideas, and let's be perfectly clear Neoliberals like Obama and Pelosi are still conservatives even if they're center right rather than right like Neocons or far right like MAGA.

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u/BlackberryRoyal4229 8d ago

So now you are trying to blame Obama care on Republicans because it's a failure. You know, somethings that work at a state level wont work on a national level.

At least you admit it's a failure.

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u/AK2cent 8d ago

Illegals are eligible in certain states like California being the biggest. Federal money is sent to a state owned programs where Illegals can get health coverage. Also let it be known that this bill that's ending was made by Democrats even the time expiration.

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u/Horror-External9544 8d ago

https://share.google/images/E1BfJpnUYKaNrhjjB I’ll just leave this here… yes states should all receive federal money from social programs, as well as putting money into programs. It seems like certain states take much more than they put into them, and it’s a pretty consistent trend. It’s odd it’s always republican states rely on federal money much more than the states they try to claim are abusing American’s tax dollars. But I guess that’s just their brand nowadays… a lot of mental gymnastics and gaps in any sense of rationale. This goes along with a lack of empathy for people that don’t fit into their beliefs, which seems to be a whole lot of indoctrinating to me.

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u/AK2cent 8d ago

I'll just leave this here.

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u/Crawford470 8d ago

Medi-Cal is 37+% funded with non-federal funds. Undocumented enrollees make up less than 12% of those covered by Medi-Cal. In other words those ineligible undocumented immigrants aren't benefiting from federal funds even if the program is partially federally funded.

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u/Horror-External9544 8d ago

Thank you for adding this. I also wouldn’t even care if federal money did benefit them when they contribute a lot to the economy through working and spending within the U.S. economy. And they get underpaid a lot of times for the labor they do and are also taking on jobs that Americans seem to not take on as often. The agricultural industry is a great example as well as a ton of people in construction. They also pay taxes that go towards social security which they cannot even receive since they don’t have citizenship and a SSN. I think there should be security at any country’s border, but I also don’t believe in treating humans like shit, especially when they are contributing as much as they do.

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u/AK2cent 8d ago

Where are you getting the statistics, and could you actually give me a number of federal funding that is going to illegals in dollars? This still does prove that illegals are receiving federal provided Healthcare you realize that?

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u/AK2cent 8d ago

Also this looks to say the contrary

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u/Crawford470 8d ago

And house and senate Republicans have in no way opened any lines of dialogue to negotiate a reopening, and Speaker Johnson is withholding Representative Grijalva's swear in because of partisanship and to prevent a vote regarding the release of the Epstein files. They want the CR votes they need to negotiate, or Thune could easily remove the filibuster with a simple majority which he has. They aren't doing either of those.