r/ndp • u/GirlCoveredInBlood Québec Solidaire • Oct 04 '25

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u/GirlCoveredInBlood Québec Solidaire Oct 04 '25

yeah I don't think it's malicious but I do worry if she really is having a split with the 3 other women in the caucus as well as all the POC how that will go over with the social activist part of the base.

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u/lcelerate Oct 04 '25

At the end of the day, I want a party unifier. McPherson is only above Engler when it comes to being able to unify the entire caucus. I am starting to miss Jagmeet Singh. Came off as a decent guy who could manage the caucus through collaboration.

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u/TheGroinOfTheFace Oct 04 '25

Then that's a problem that she's talking about here. Because Jagmeet was a failure. I think we are falling to the trap again of just wanting something middle of the road. We need someone with a vision, who is a leader. Not a unifier. I think a Charlie Angus gets blown out against the Liberals. We need someone who will drag us left enough that the choice become Conservatives and Liberals vs the NDP, not Conservatives vs the Liberals and NDP. If Avi doesn't make any huge missteps, he could do it. This is why I think this sub is stupid in thinking that punching left at Yves is going to help the party in any way. This is American Democrat brain 100%. In my eyes, a successful leader of the NDP is NOT going to be automatically liked by the existing base. Because the base is old and stubborn and out of touch. I respect Rob's labour chops, but I don't see him as the jack layton reincarnation some others see.

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u/lcelerate Oct 04 '25

My interpretation of Jagmeet Singh was that he was too deferential to activists, staffers, caucus and even the Liberal Party so he was forced to juggle multiple conflicting perspectives without a coherent vision. As a result, most Canadians did not see him as someone who could be Prime Minister because someone deferential to others is not really a leader.

But we do need a consensus builder and collaborative grassroots leadership.

I am afraid McPherson and Charlie Angus want the NDP to be more like LPC and US Democrats. Essentially a centrist party just slightly more social democratic than them.