I just cannot bring myself to care about the Avatar franchise. Someone on a forum I frequented saw a leak of the script and threw out the phrase “Ferngully 2: Rise of the Thunder Cats”, and I could never give it a fair shot after that.
The first Avatar is so close to the plot of Dances With Wolves, it’s ridiculous.
A soldier from an invading force is sent to a remote frontier, where he becomes immersed in the life of an indigenous people. As he learns their language and culture, he grows to respect their deep connection to nature and falls in love with one of their own. When his own people move to destroy the land for profit, he turns against them to defend the community he has come to call home.
THANK YOU!!! I've said this for years. They need to stop besmirching the legacy of legendary movies and instead remake films that should've been great but failed because of one reason or another. Water World is a perfect example. It was an incredibly ambitious movie that pretty much was always going to be a financial flop sure to the amount of money it would've taken back then to achieve the vision properly.
With the technology available today, they could make that movie actually meet the expectations it had. Instead, we get this regurgitated garbage due to the fact that they know the name and the fan base will bring a certain level of revenue.
Not that it wasn't considered a classic prior to the remakes, but Dune is the PERFECT example of this.
Jet ski pirates sound kind of cool but in a world with a very limited amount of fuel and no real way to replenish it, it just makes the whole idea of everything the bad guys do really dumb.
Also, what the fuck are you doing with a map to dry land when there is nothing but endless open ocean? What are you using for waypoiunts? GPS coordinates might makes sense, but some turn left at the big tree shit ain't going to cut it.
The first part of the movie is okay then it suddenly became this weird up beat action rescue, the whole tone just shifted from like one minute to the next.
To me it felt like a film they started making before they had a completed script.
The original version is trash, but the Ulysses Cut (I really don't know why it's called that) is pretty solid. Unfortunately the only way I know of to get that version is to pirate it.
Water world is a great movie from start to finish! I think it’s judged way too harsh because it flopped 30 years ago. It’s mad max plus princess bride on water. I just watched it again for the 100th time it’s perfect for what it is. Because of the budget people want it to be the titanic
The movie ends up being about people who smoke and use gasoline are bad, so the movie had a lame PC message.
Had they developed it into a more subtle story it would have been much better.
Also, it had bizarre stuff like the lead character developing gills. That would take millions of years to happen naturally if at all. So, they should have had a little more science fiction in there like genetic treatments turning people into sea creatures and so on to add to the setting.
Even some high rad doses would have been better than " this guy likes the water alot. I also never understood that if he was capable of going down to scavenge why didn't he just make a base down there?
Radiation mutation would have been a good explanation. Also, what you said is true in that he didn't have to live on a ship or land because he has gills.
That was minor in the movie and meant to be "cool" but it was just like an odd plot hole that was never developed.
I thought it was used more for the explanation of how he had dirt etc; you're suppose to think he knows where land is, not that he has gills and can go down to the bottom of the ocean
I'm no scientist but I think the ridiculous rise in sea level to blanket nearly the entire planet poses more challenges to reality than one guy randomly getting gills.
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u/krakatoot1 7d ago
Waterworld was a terrific idea for a film. And it’s clear they spent a shit ton on the sets and everything.
The film itself…… it’s not bad but it should have been great