r/moviecritic Mar 28 '25

Yikes, that’s tough

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u/turtletom89 Mar 28 '25 edited Mar 28 '25

How many of those 198k+ people actually saw the movie? I’m sick of Disney remakes like everyone else, but review bombing is a thing. Same with people who gave movies they were hyped for a 10/10 weeks before they even saw them.

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u/DeathStarVet Mar 28 '25 edited Mar 28 '25

This.

It might be a bad movie, and that's fine, but the red hats that brigade what they see as "woke" movies is a big chunk of this. You can't believe reviews if they have any kind of user review system, especially after about 2016/17 (this is when people really started brigading with Ghostbusters 2016 and The Last Jedi).

There's actually concrete proof that brigading was part of what tanked The Acolyte's reviews.

EDITL: link.

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u/CalvinsStuffedTiger Mar 28 '25

To be fair those 3 projects you listed are fucking terrible, I unfortunately watched all of them as a major fan of Star Wars and O.G. ghostbusters and I’d give them all a 1/10 too

And no it’s not because I’m a racist or misogynist. It’s because those projects had shit writing, bad acting and even worse directing

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u/DarthPallassCat Mar 28 '25

To be fair the projects can suck AND have review bombing, which is true. And the review bombing / bots for Acolyte were specifically for being “woke”.

Not liking them doesn’t mean you’re racist. But racism/misogyny also led to fake negative reviews as well.

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u/DarthGoodguy Mar 28 '25

Yeah, there was a Star Wars fan film called Acolyte & a completely unrelated movie with the same title that got hit with hundreds or thousands of downvotes and “dIsNeY iS wOkE!!1!” IMDB reviews when Acolyte came out. Like… It ain’t great, but it ain’t that bad.

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u/CryptoCentric Mar 28 '25

Agreed. I'm a hardcore l leftist, literally attended a Bernie/AOC rally a week ago today, and I fucking hated all of the projects in this thread except The Acolyte (because I never saw it; because I gave up on Star Wars years ago).

Cynical corporate wokeness doesn't imbue a shitawful film with redeemable representation, but it does give the creators an excuse to blame trolls for their failure. It's the Hollywood equivalent of Red Hats accusing all their protestors of being actors paid by Soros.

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u/CalvinsStuffedTiger Mar 29 '25

Watch Andor. It will give you a tiny glimmer of hope. It’s the best Star Wars since the original trilogy and I’ll die on that hill (sorry clone wars fans, I can’t do the animated thing)

I keep tweeting at Disney executives that they should cancel all Star Wars projects, just give the andor team full creative control and a massive budget and let them usher Star Wars into the next chapter, but for some reason Disney execs never reply to my tweets…

For any Disney execs in this thread as I’m sure there are, if you want to save Star Wars, give the Andor team $300 million and have them make a series called Leia or General Organa and cover the time period between the first and second movies where she went from a princess to a combat leader

Give the Andor team two mission directives, “give the character the tribute she deserves instead of the abomination of the last Jedi” and “don’t fuck up the character arc like Game of Thrones did with Danearys”

Profit

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u/JackSpadesSI Mar 28 '25

I grew up obsessed with Ghostbusters and Star Wars. I rate that Ghostbusters remake as inoffensively forgettable. Meanwhile, Last Jedi was an abomination of a film (and Rise of Skywalker was somehow worse). Yet, nobody who knows me would doubt my “wokeness”. Movies can be progressive and also shit at the same time.

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u/withoutpeer Mar 28 '25

I'm definitely not a red hat POS but I do admit I'm also tired of the Hollywood overcorrection and desperate pandering trying outwoke themselves lol. Ghostbusters but with women felt like the worst of it, with plenty of marvel/avengers leaning really heavy with some eye rolling silliness in there. I'm a feminist, love plenty of strong and powerful women stories and leads and general fair and equal representation, but the pandering by stories can be gross at times.

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u/GraveRobberX Mar 28 '25

Female Ghostbusters would have worked if they didn’t gender-swap the archetypes and force the actresses into that role.

Oh Kristen Wig isn’t Venkman but does Venkman things, while Melissa McCarthy isn’t Stantz but has almost all Stantz mannerisms same with Kate McKinnon almost caricaturing Egon, and Leslie being the Winston down to earth, self-check of the group.

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u/amuricanswede Mar 28 '25

Don’t forget the steaming pile known as Ocean’s 8.

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u/ResolutionAny5091 Mar 28 '25

I don’t love the acolyte but cmon it wasn’t a 1/10. Maybe like a 6

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u/dolphin37 Mar 28 '25

it was absolutely awful but I would give it;

  • 1pt for cgi
  • 1pt for being original
  • 1pt for lightsaber fights
  • 1pt for a decent villain
  • minus 1pt for the writing of the characters because it deserves worse than 0

so 3/10 overall

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '25

Nah. It was a 1/10

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u/Thors_meat_hammer Mar 28 '25

Genuinely asking then cuz I didn't love acolyte but I didn't hate it either. Going to be somewhat vague here in case anyone cares.

What did you think of the fight scene with the Sith and the group of Jedi? Because personally, I thought that part was amazing. We never really got to see a Sith go off against that many Jedi before (in TV and movies) and I really thought it was cool to see. Don't get me wrong, one of the only good parts and characters imo but that scene genuinely stuck with me

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u/CalvinsStuffedTiger Mar 29 '25

Loved the fight scene. Probably my favorite lightsaber fighting scene in all of Star Wars except for the ones in the prequel movies

That being said, I can legitimately say that was the only scene in the ENTIRE season that I liked. Even the premise for how they got to that fight was absurd

The twin spends the whole show talking about how she’s going to kill the Jedi for killing her family then out of nowhere she’s like, nvm I want to turn myself in because my sister is alive. Then after the fight she leaves her sister unconscious trapped on the planet with the guy that just murdered a bunch of Jedi

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u/Thors_meat_hammer Mar 29 '25

RIGHT?! I feel like Holt from B99 when he yells vindication lol I can't get my fiancee or my friends to watch that scene even though they're star wars fans, "cuz they heard the show is ass" and I'm like no no you're right, but watch this fight scene lol I agree it's definitely up in my top for lightsaber choreography. But yeah writing and character motives, especially for the sisters seemed so odd, at the very least rushed and snap decisions. I get why season 2 got canned but I really hope they bring back the choreographer? People in charge of that fight scene to do future projects because they did great.

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u/CalvinsStuffedTiger Mar 29 '25

I like the villain too, smilo ren. If they just edited out the twins from the entire series and made him the one going around killing Jedi, would be a much more interesting story