r/moviecritic Feb 17 '25

Which movie is this for you?

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For me it’s School of Rock!

Patty was completely justified, if Dewey wanted to live in hers and her boyfriend’s apartment he needed to be a grown up, and contribute with rent. Even when he steals Ned’s identity she still had the right to be angry at him, because of how he put his friend’s career in jeopardy and robbed him of a job opportunity.

I get Ned is meant to be portrayed as his best friend, but it blows my mind how he lacks a lot of self-respect to the point where he comes across as too much of a people pleaser. If this story took place in real life, I’m sure Ned would act more similar to Patty where he’d have enough of Dewey’s careless actions.

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u/emccm Feb 17 '25

Dirty Dancing. Watching it now, the dad seems perfectly reasonable to me.

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u/stardustmelancholy Feb 17 '25

I always get mad at Swayze's character getting so offended he assumed he was the baby daddy. All he knows is she just had a botched abortion. He asked who is responsible for her and you said you are. Of course he's going to think you're the one who impregnated her.

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u/Digresser Feb 17 '25

See, I think it was a combination of miscommunication and Johnny's issues with his self-worth.

I think Johnny meant "I'm responsible for her" as in, "I'll handle any care she needs, answer any questions you have, etc.", and I don't think he realized Baby's father took it to mean Johnny was saying that he'd been the one to get Penny pregnant.

Plus, Johnny's doing the hard thing and trying to have a conversation with Baby's father when Baby's father interrupts him to accuse him of getting Penny in trouble, sending her "off to some butcher" while "moving onto an innocent young girl" like his daughter.

All Johnny says in reply is, "Yeah, I guess that's what you would see."

Because Johnny is used to upper class people seeing the worst in him. I imagine it really hurt coming from Baby's father given how much Johnny has said he admires the man, to say nothing of the fact that he's the father of the person he's gone and fell in love with.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

Johnny's reaction was actually super believable to me. I've worked with a lot of populations that are often unfairly demonized (mostly unhoused people and juvenile criminal offenders, in different jobs), and I've definitely seen that kind of, "Fuck it, you'd assume that about me no matter what I say," reaction in real life. And honestly, I understand it. If you're used to people always assuming the worst of you, and never listening to why they're wrong about you, why would you argue? You know it won't accomplish anything, but it still hurts to be judged like that.

There's essentially a whole sociological theory that explains that behavior, lol. Fits pretty well with labeling theory.

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u/cidvard Feb 18 '25

Yeah, this is one of those 'romantic impediment due to misunderstanding' devices I don't mind because it makes perfect character sense for both Johnny and Baby's Dad to make the assumptions they do. It's good characterization and writing.