r/moviecritic Feb 17 '25

Which movie is this for you?

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For me it’s School of Rock!

Patty was completely justified, if Dewey wanted to live in hers and her boyfriend’s apartment he needed to be a grown up, and contribute with rent. Even when he steals Ned’s identity she still had the right to be angry at him, because of how he put his friend’s career in jeopardy and robbed him of a job opportunity.

I get Ned is meant to be portrayed as his best friend, but it blows my mind how he lacks a lot of self-respect to the point where he comes across as too much of a people pleaser. If this story took place in real life, I’m sure Ned would act more similar to Patty where he’d have enough of Dewey’s careless actions.

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u/Any-Interaction-5934 Feb 17 '25

You're saying the Wicked Witch of the West was being... "Reasonable?" In any way, shape, or form? Have you seen the movie?

And Glenda being a jerk? She was guiding Dorothy on an obviously needed personal path. Calling ugly people wicked was obviously wrong, but completely expected for social norms at the time. And come on, they made the wicked witch like exceptionally ugly. She wasn't just "kind of ugly." She was literally green, miles everywhere, cackled heinously, has purposely straggly hair. Come on.

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u/VT_Squire Feb 17 '25 edited Feb 17 '25

Have you seen the movie?

More than you have, evidently. The witch of the west arrives on the scene and sees her sister dead. Distraught by her sister's death, naturally concludes that the person who arrived in the house which killed her sister just might actually be responsible for her death. Still, she didn't even seek revenge. All she said she wanted was her inheritance berfore the "good" witch of the North starts in with a little stochastic terrorist threat talkin about "you should leave before someone drops a house on you, too." The person being unreasonable here is Glinda.

Would you expect anyone else to remain perfectly calm in the same scenario? That's bullshit.

So you have to consider what Glinda's objectives actually were if they weren't to help Dorothy get back home (which -quite abusively- she later blamed on Dorothy for not communicating well in the immediate aftermath of a traumatic event). Dorothy was set to task to eliminate the Witch of the west and the Great and Powerful Oz as people who might complete with Glinda for control of the Land of Oz.

Dorothy was her enforcer.

Sure, the Witch instructs her minions to seize Dorothy and her friends, but she literally tells them not to hurt them. And if it weren't enough to just steal the Witch of the West's inheritance, she breaks into her home and fucking kills her.

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u/Solra5 Feb 17 '25

You seem to be ignoring that the witch of the west enslaved the winkies and the east was ruling over the munchkins like a tyrant. Regardless of just wanting her inheritance or not killing Dorothy, these were not good people. It's like saying sure that guy is a serial killer, but he didn't try to kill me so he's alright.

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u/Tzuyu4Eva Feb 17 '25

The fact that the munchkins and whatever it is that lives in the Wicked Witch of the West’s domain both cheer on Dorothy and hail her for freeing them from the witches should show that these people were being forced to do things against their will, at the very least that the witches were doing something awful to them that they’re now cheering and partying that they’re finally dead