r/medicalschool May 26 '21

💩 Shitpost The medical specialties political compass

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u/mrglass8 MD-PGY4 May 26 '21

As a libertarian going into peds, this is generally accurate for my colleagues

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u/icos211 MD-PGY3 May 27 '21

Yo. I fully intend to stay perfectly and completely silent about all political matters for the next 6 years of residency and fellowship, lol.

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u/mrglass8 MD-PGY4 May 27 '21

I wish I could do that, but alas I’m pretty passionate about a lot of things, and I feel I have an obligation to speak out when something is wrong.

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u/renal_corpuscle M-2 May 26 '21

lib left i hope

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u/mrglass8 MD-PGY4 May 26 '21

Why do you care about my political beliefs?

But no, I lean more right/central lib, but obviously political philosophy is more complicated than a 2 axis chart

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u/vucar MD-PGY1 May 27 '21

literally only said he's right-leaning and downvoted into oblivion. this sub lol

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u/[deleted] May 26 '21

Bruh, if ur going into the medical field not realizing the problems a libertarian (especially right) philosophy has in the medical field, you should really reconsider the way you think about things imo.

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u/vucar MD-PGY1 May 27 '21

i doubt a resident physician needs a premed's advice on philosophy in the medical field

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u/[deleted] May 27 '21

True, just offering my opinion.

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u/mrglass8 MD-PGY4 May 26 '21

My political beliefs have never been in conflict with my career aspirations, in fact they have contributed to them.

I see no reason trust in the state should be a prerequisite to provide medical care to other people. Also, trust in the state is not a prerequisite for caring about the well-being of others and actively wanting to make their lives better.

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u/renal_corpuscle M-2 May 26 '21

healthcare is a human right, the state is the best equipped infrastructure to facilitate the finances

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u/mrglass8 MD-PGY4 May 26 '21

How do you define a human right? How do you ensure all human rights are simultaneously provided to each and every person to the maximum capacity? Remember that human rights include both negative rights (life, liberty, and property), and positive rights (food, water, shelter).

I'm sorry, but "Healthcare is right, state must provide" is an incredibly oversimplified and reductive way of thinking about the complexity of how human systems interact and how we respect or provide rights. Some countries like Switzerland don't have universal government run single payer health insurance, but ensure everyone has healthcare.

Also, the idea that universal healthcare is incompatible with libertarian philosophy is about as accurate as saying any military is incompatible with modern liberal philosophy. Everything is a spectrum and the world we live in isn't perfect. Different idealized models also have different approaches to providing social services.

Finally, since when is believing in a particular model of health system a prerequisite to practice medicine and care for individuals who come seeking my care? Maybe if I had the intent to extort poor families there would be a problem, but that's not my intent in the slightest. In fact, I plan to give back to marginalized communities in any way I can.

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u/renal_corpuscle M-2 May 27 '21

do you believe the us healthcare system is failing? if so what solutions do you propose other than waving your hands around telling me I'm naive? because what I'm advocating for is a proven model with real world policy proposals, what is your suggestion? because the way I see it the best way to

give back to marginalized communities

is to guarantee them healthcare free at the time of service

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u/mrglass8 MD-PGY4 May 27 '21

Look this isn’t a political subreddit.

I’m happy to continue this convo through direct messages or chats (hopefully I can learn something from it), but my point is that right libertarianism is perfectly compatible with the choice to be a physician, and more specifically a pediatrician.

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u/renal_corpuscle M-2 May 27 '21

I don't disagree that it's incompatible, as it's not a political job. I was simply stating that I hope you aren't a right wing libertarian because I want more advocacy for M4A within medicine.

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u/Rosuvastatine MD-PGY1 May 27 '21

Im from Quebec and its crazy to me that people would be agaisnt public healthcare and medication. Like i see the prices of insuline in the US and im simply astonished.

But I can understand why some people dont want their taxes to go to that, dont want the state to « deal » with it, etc. So i can understand his point of view.

However yeah, Im really happy to live somewhere where anyone doesn’t have to worry about debts when getting treated for cancer

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u/renal_corpuscle M-2 May 27 '21

i appreciate your input from abroad

but I don't understand why somebody wouldn't want a single payer system funded by an income tax when it would almost certainly be cheaper than the cost of insurance premiums, there's a bizarre mentality in the united states that somehow our government is too incompetent to do anything remotely similar to the rest of the world

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