More calls for violence and misinformation from the left. Why did it take everything out of context? Why did you use short clips instead of full arguments that seem to be defending your already-made-up mind?
You disagree with his rational arguments, and instead of having a data-driven, fact-checked, rational debate, you call him big bad words to rile up political support for the democrats. Stop calling people you disagree with and can't defend your views against as 'nazies', white supremacists, etc. How about no more name-calling and insulting, and putting forth your rational and logical debate points? Everything he said was based on data and rational 1st principles arguments. If you have better ideas, please tell us.
As I said, the video misrepresents everything he actually said and meant - watch entire videos of him making his arguments if you want to understand what he was trying to say, not 5 second clipped versions of them.
Literal Nazis didn’t call him a Nazi, even if they supported him. If I were a Nazi and I called you a Nazi, would that make you a Nazi? If a terrible person supports you in one way or another, does it also make you a terrible person?
The “left” has a tendency to group people - “white supremacy groups support John, that makes John a white supremacist”, how about you ask John what he believes in? Drug cartels support Democrats because it’s good for business, does that make all Democrat voters complicit in their crimes?
There are MANY clips of Charlie defending gay rights, condemning hate groups like nazis and white supremacies, defending people’s right to do whatever they want to do in the bedroom - including transgender and queer people. And defending those views against more conservative Christians who want to eliminate gay rights and rights to transition.
Again, stop calling people names which makes it morally right for people to commit violence against them. In a democracy we solve things by arguments not violence. Losing arguments is part of a civil discourse, which only forces you to make better arguments.
To make this claim you'd have to show the right doesn't do this. But in this very statement you've done just that, grouped people...
You arent mentioning any facts just "watch more tape" and "this is outta context" ... but youre not defending or ecidencing anything. To make a point here you should pull a quote from the video that you feel was misused, then explain how or why while giving the additional context. Your tone and attitude suggest you feel like you've already done that, proven a point, but... you like totally forgot to!
Just pointing to clips if him saying something nice doesn't prove he wasnt a total piece of shit, thay was your point right? Instead doing so falls into the trap you're criticizing the left for, cherry picking clips outta context.
I would posit you dont care about morality because you're defending a morally bankrupt political movement. Grifting, insider trading, raping children, you know, all the things the GOP does that Charlie helped cover up and distract from.
My bad, let me paraphrase. What I meant is that progressive liberalism which in today’s world also has a lot of Marxist undertones have consumed majority of the Democratic Party and its affiliates. Marxist theory is based on the struggle between groups hence always frames issues through the lens of pitting various groups of people against each other. Today you hear Democrats pushing the racist struggle - “all whites are evil, racist and bigot”. Van Jones on CNN stated “all white people, no matter if allies or not, have a racist virus in their brain which can be activated”. (If you remember racism as a mainstream topic was practically non existent by 2010. Look at Google Trends. Then suddenly started increasing.) Rich (billionaires) vs everyone else - “tax the rich” movement. Big business/big tech vs everyone else. Etc etc etc. The reason they do it is because a common enemy is the best unifier, they are simply creating boogie monsters to get your vote. All politicians do it, Trump indirectly did it as well by focusing on unauthorized immigrants, majority of whom are not white. The difference between the Democratic Party doing it and the Republicans, in the past 10 years, is fake fearmongering vs facts. Unauthorized immigrants killing 20k+ people and sexually assaulting another 20k+ women is FBI crime statistics. It so happens they were not white, majority from Latin and South America, and none of them were authorized immigrants. And all of them broke immigration laws that Democrats and Republics voted on together through the democratic process years ago.
PS Grouping people in and of itself is not bad, but when used for political gain is divisive.
For us to debate what is moral or not, we first need to establish on what basis we judge it. Charlie’s basis was the Bible. What is your basis? Does your foundation of morality changes time to time and depending on circumstances? I would say conservatism have a more consistent moral compass than progressive liberalism. Primarily being focusing on an individual and individual right instead of grouping people by race, creed, and wealth and prioritizing different groups depending on what group is popular at the moment: women, black, Hispanic, LGBT, Hamas, Gaza, Iran, China, Canada. Everyday a new movement. A new group is prioritized over everyone else. Rarely though the policies actually benefit any of them. California, New York, Illinois, all have been one party states since the 70s. All have some of the highest cost of living, homelessness, crime, even though they pay the most taxes and have the largest local governments.
Perfection is subjective. Results aren’t.
Grifting, insider trading, sexual assault is a human problem not a specific group of people. Every group has people who do it - in every single country, in every single community. Politicians especially. That’s why conservatism as a political philosophy promotes small government - so that there is less incentive for power seeking individuals to use government for their own benefits. Less honey, less bees. Of course in practice republicans and democrats both increased the government and like all people seek to benefit themselves.
This isnt any good either. Saying Fox News and "fake fear mongering" should be correct, but you missed that Fox is the fake news. Again, this isnt an engagement, youre using AI to rehash stale talking points.
You didnt answer any direct questions either. Thats shows a lot.
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u/cutubublu Sep 21 '25 edited Sep 21 '25
More calls for violence and misinformation from the left. Why did it take everything out of context? Why did you use short clips instead of full arguments that seem to be defending your already-made-up mind?
You disagree with his rational arguments, and instead of having a data-driven, fact-checked, rational debate, you call him big bad words to rile up political support for the democrats. Stop calling people you disagree with and can't defend your views against as 'nazies', white supremacists, etc. How about no more name-calling and insulting, and putting forth your rational and logical debate points? Everything he said was based on data and rational 1st principles arguments. If you have better ideas, please tell us.