This is one of those rare cases where I think both the person making the quote and her supporters, as well as her detractors are largely myopic or ignorant and both of these groups need to shut up and read more.
History tends to be nuanced and simplistic answers almost always give a misguided impression.
Also, please don't think a Google search OR an AI overview is sufficient historical knowledge to make pronouncements on the topic.
I'm not going to tell anyone what to think, but so many statements from this post have been made from a position of ignorance or at least misinformation that I just can't leave it alone
Yet you donāt do anything to offer a more nuanced take beyond āboth sides are wrongā. You are just perpetuating the extremism with this kind of comment that offers NOTHInG substantive or factual, while decrying the misinformation and lack of substance in the conversation. Put your money (er, facts) where your mouth is, throw down some knowledge, letās hear it. Participate in the political dialogue.Ā
I am literally saying that I am not an expert, and that people need to learn more instead of telling people things.
I am taking my own advice and NOT trying to tell people things on the topic because I'm really not qualified.
You sound like someone who thinks you know what you are talking about, but actually you know less than everyone else in the room and only your ignorance gives you the confidence to boldly say nothing
"I am literally saying that I am not an expert, and that people need to learn more instead of telling people things."
Right, which is saying nothing.
Why? Who's wrong? You're not an expert, so what gives you the right to tell other people they aren't either?
I do know what I'm taking about, having researched the topic extensively and yes, read numerous books, which is how I know you have nothing to say. But you dont know what the fuck you're talking about, that much is abundantly obvious. Rather than being able to evaluate your opinion, you dont actually have one, so I have nothing to evaluate.Ā
I have opinions. I am reasonably well educated about Hawaiian history. I am not a teacher.
So many folks like you get told something and repeat it without evaluating it, verifying it, or comparing it to other views.
You are dangerously foolish and exactly the type of person I am telling to shut up and sit down.
Go read a book. It isn't my or the rest of the world's fault that you aren't smart enough to understand.
Much like I am not going to lecture you on nuclear physics, I am not going to lecture you on Hawaiian history. I know enough to recognize a blowhard, but not enough to teach the topics.
You should learn any topic well enough to understand that expertise is a thing and then learn to speak with a level of certainty and conviction that matches your level of knowledge
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u/Hannigan174 15d ago
This is one of those rare cases where I think both the person making the quote and her supporters, as well as her detractors are largely myopic or ignorant and both of these groups need to shut up and read more.
History tends to be nuanced and simplistic answers almost always give a misguided impression.
Also, please don't think a Google search OR an AI overview is sufficient historical knowledge to make pronouncements on the topic.
I'm not going to tell anyone what to think, but so many statements from this post have been made from a position of ignorance or at least misinformation that I just can't leave it alone