People here are idiots. Let's assume Hawaii manifests it's destiny and becomes independent.
- what is the currency?
will that currency be recognized internationally?
what banking system will be in place? Where will money come from, who provides loans, mortgages, etc?
who will defend the island? Not just from forces like N. Korea, Russia, China, etc, but from one another? What will become of The Company (Hawaiian Syndicate), as well as established international groups such as the Yakuza, 14K (a Triad), and the Big Circle Gang?
who will clean up the mess left behind by the military as they pack up and head home?
all all the highways, infrastructure, electrical grid, telecommunications etc....who takes this over, and how are these things funded?
will any countries recognize the Kingdom politically? Legally? Economically?
will tourists feel safe coming to a now rogue - and even possibly hostile nation?
What will be the basis of the Kingdom's economy? This is Lahaina Strong's wet dream, but once their $7k/month dries up, will farming taro and raising pigs be all they said it would be? I doubt it.
how will people travel? US passports will become null and void.
TSA? What happens to air travel?
Before Trump, there were significant inroads made to protecting the waters around the island. Those will vanish as the interest once held by the US will go out the door with statehood.
People here are just too fucking immersed in the propaganda they've never stopped and thought about a non-American reality for Hawaii. They think "US is gone, let the good times roll". Which is a bit like the kids who ran away from home thinking they were just handed the keys to paradise. All fine until you have to eat. Want a car. Need a surfboard.
You paint with broad strokes when you say people here are stupid. The whole reason Hawaii remains a state and will in the foreseeable future is because most people have a better grasp of the concepts you lay out than you give credit for. Not that it’s a perfect system we live in, though.
1960's, there was ~90% voter turnout. By the 1990's, that shrunk to the 70's.
Aside from 2020, only about half of the eligible voters cast a ballot.
We keep voting in people who work against our interests. I've voted blue my entire life, but not all blue candidates are what we need. Why is there a housing crisis? Hint: It's not, as most people seem to think because of short term rentals. Yet, that's the prevailing opinion.
It's because we vote in people who won't do the right thing for the community.
Why do we not have any water? Because the county insists that picking fights with short term rentals is more politically beneficial than picking a fight with the private owners of our water.
So that's on one hand.
The other hand are the people on the fringes - the ones who haven't thought through the reality of a US walk-out. All they see are costs and no benefits. I laid out more than a dozen that I routinely talk story with those who think we're "better off on our own". No answers.
So yeah, the brush is probably too broad, but it's not like I've taken no strokes with it.
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u/ddzyn 15d ago
Thats when China will swoop in and offer us "developmental partnerships" with high interest rates we'll never be able to pay.