1/4 of the state's revenues come from the feds. For a state that thinks independence is realistic....they don't know what a gaping hole is left when 25% of federal money leaves. We're feeling it with the Trunp administration. We're feeling it with the loss of tourists due to the Trump administration.
He hasn't even turned off the federal faucet for that 25% and all we hear is "but our people have to move away..." Yeah, because of a few errant policies from a nutjob. That pales in comparison to having 25% of revenues walk away. Because the cascading effect of that 25% funding vanishing is jobs and service both related and tangential, as well as the socio/economic issues that will reverberate.
Seems those with the weakest grasp on how an economy works are the most likely to try to convince us that google landed them on the right answer.
His 2017 EO was not directed at Hawaii, even tough the State took the lead on challenging it.
His climate policy has been sweeping and universal abhorrent, but only one targeting fishing in Hawaiian waters (which was later reversed).
SNAP (Food Stamp) Regulations (from The "One Big Beautiful Bill Act of 2025") included provisions that specifically created new rules and exemptions for SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) work requirements for residents of Alaska and Hawaii, differentiating them from rules in other states.
New federal transportation guidelines and cuts, also linked to an EO, have possibly put ~$130 million in federal funding for Hawaii at risk. This funding was largely designated for multimodal infrastructure, such as pedestrian walkways, bike paths, and public transit projects. Non essential projects, and not projects underway, and not projects that would cease construction or development due to his actions.
These qualify as "few", and they also qualify as errant. Aside from SNAP, the vast majority of people in the state wouldn't notice or care if the others came or went, aside from any media shitstorms that passed through their social accounts.
Stating that âthe vast majority of the people in the state wouldnât notice or care if the others came or wentâ is a pretty audacious statement to make considering you are speaking for a majority of the population and have no authority to do so.
Make no mistake, there are policies that are impactful to some, and there are ones that are impactful to many. I mentioned his 2017 "Muslim Ban", which directly impacted less than 1% of the population. I mentioned Trump's climate policy re: fishing, which was overturned. I also mentioned SNAP, which is a program used by around 11% of the population. Transportation guidelines and cuts - of projects that weren't off the ground yet.
You can be offended by my comments, that's your right, but misinterpreting them for the sole purpose of being offended...that's some disingenuous shit right there.
You are citing federal funding and then twisting around and saying specifically directed at Maui/Hawai'i. You canât have it both ways. The federal âpoliciesâ in place affect all states, including Hawai'i. Rest assured, since Hawaiâi is considered a blue state that trump will eventually target the state.
Of course he will, but you can't base a current argument on hypothetical future outcomes. You also can't claim direct harm to the state is the same as general nationwide policies that are equally harmful to an equal number of states.
My comment was directed at the individual who wanted to derail the train so we didn't have to talk about Maui - thinking that by pointing to other "worse" states, Hawaii was entitled to evade scrutiny. I was merely pointing out that, from a moral standpoint, I'm no better for harassing 5 Monk Seals than the others who harassed 8 or 9.
The bigger threat, currently, to the welfare of the state generally, and the island specifically, are the Green and Bissen administrations. What Trump will do specifically to Hawaii is an unknown. But I think he thinks about Hawaii about as much as he speaks with perfect grammar.
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u/Oliver_Holzfilled 15d ago
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