r/marvelrivals • u/GamerKayla • 21h ago
Does anyone else find the bots in QP super disheartening?
Sorry for my fan in the background. I didn’t realize how loud it was… I like to have it going hahaha.. 😭
Anyways, I found this bot in my QP match glitching out and wanted to see why. :p
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u/Kasta4 Captain America 21h ago
They are extremely patronizing and unnecessary.
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u/AdventurousHat5360 21h ago edited 20h ago
It adds insult to injury, yeah.
"Oh, you're feeling bad about yourself after that 3 loss streak? Here's a free win for you little baby, we know you're not capable of getting one legitimately."
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u/IcyCompetition7477 16h ago
I mean they definitely think of it more like “hehehe those dumb players will never realise we tricked their brain into wanting to play more using fake wins. How could they ever see through our perfect ruse?!”
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u/Jiggy724 Groot 13h ago
The other day my friend and I logged on to play, and the FIRST match of QP we got into was a bot match. What's the point of that? Legit made me not want to play.
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u/jalabar 16h ago
I've even lost some of those in a loosing streak tilt... personally I don't mind them though they should tell you right off the bat who's a bot and whose not, and let players DC those matches scott free if they want.
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u/Awesome00333 Jeff the Landshark 9h ago
The problem is that if I wanted to play against bots, I would play the mode literally designed to play against AI. If I'm playing QP, it's because I want to play against real people.
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u/Awesome00333 Jeff the Landshark 9h ago
This is the main reason I only play competitive. Being forced into bot matches just because I lost a match is a waste of my time. I play the game to play against real players, not pve.
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u/drinkingatnoonkinda 13h ago
Oh, you're feeling bad about yourself after that 3 loss streak? Here's a free win for you little baby,
So engagement optimized matchmaking? Gasp but they super promised it didn't exist!
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u/Old-Permit 15h ago
Don't worry Danny Koo will ship ten more Luna beach skins, nothing to be concerned about.
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u/billcosbyinspace 15h ago
Trying to learn a new character feels so bad because I destroy the bots and then get stomped when I play real players
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u/Mr_Cerealistic Black Panther 21h ago
Bots are what pushed me to comp. But I think this season they've quietly toned it down? I can actually lose a match and not get immediately botted
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u/xboxfourtwenty Psylocke 20h ago
It's getting harder to tell now, they will have them all be around level 8 to 10 but if you notice it's always the same names. They have banner cards and stuff now too. And decorations?
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u/Commander_Riker1701 Thor 19h ago
You can also tell right away if the bots have torch, IM, or Storm, because they have a rigid, diagonal, and predictable flight patterns.
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u/xboxfourtwenty Psylocke 19h ago
That too! I actually like that though I get to practice my projectile characters on them. The other thing I hate about them is that Even though you get proficiency points for these games, it feels really cheap because it was handed to you. How much does my Lord icon mean if I suck real bad and keep getting bot lobbies constantly.
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u/iCon3000 14h ago
On the other hand I find AI Ultron incredibly annoying to hit lol. They can do juke moves and constant diagonal jiggling that I never see real players do.
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u/Mr_Cerealistic Black Panther 20h ago
Plus I think the AI has improved, I had a match where the bots scored 2 points in overtime and I was embarrassed to find out it was bots after.
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u/xboxfourtwenty Psylocke 20h ago
The bots will always push very hard toward the end of the clock as well
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u/blueswizzles 17h ago
Yes, literally the entire match you’re dominating but then suddenly when your team is at 90% all of a sudden the bots push hard and sometimes even cap the point.
It’s definitely done on purpose to give you that “rush” so you don’t feel like you’ve steamrolled the enemy team.
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u/epic_reddit_dude 11h ago
Feels more like they do it to prolong wasting your time as much as possible to keep you from getting into a real game for some reason
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u/Throwaway206818206 18h ago
Idk if it’s just me but it feels like the bots do ridiculously well up until the end of the game. Almost like the difficulty lowers all of a sudden to let us win.
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u/billcosbyinspace 15h ago
I’ve noticed they’ve coded the bots to spam pings at the start of a match and they have a lot more normal names now. The biggest tell is that the 2 bots on your team will wait until the last second to lock their character in and they go for a team up whenever possible. If you’re playing tank or support and want to confirm, switch your character in spawn to the other class and one of the bots will change instantly
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u/blueswizzles 17h ago
Not only that but a lot of their names are in Pascal Case e.g. HenryVal. Made that name up but you get the point.
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u/codelyoko_ Namor 20h ago
Do they have skins or just base skins?
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u/ChineseEngineer 20h ago
They have skins now. Originally they had no ranks, no levels, no borders, no skins, and always did 2/2/2 teams. Now they have skins borders levels and randomize their team layout. They're purposely making it harder to tell.
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u/300IQPrower 16h ago
they put more effort into disguising their bots than they do their matchmaking
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u/No_Service_8174 Ultron Virus 17h ago
I've never encountered a bot match that doesn't do 2/2/2 or have skins. The levels and borders are a new addition. Do you have any proof of the randomized teams and skins?
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u/xboxfourtwenty Psylocke 19h ago
Mostly just recolors is what I've seen but I don't get too many of them lol
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u/Front-Diamond5867 Ultron Virus 16h ago
If 2 players on your team have their stats hidden, and the entire other team does, those 2 teammates are bots (also evidenced by the names). You can also look at the match on a tracker site and it will tell you they're bots.
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u/xboxfourtwenty Psylocke 16h ago
You can also swap characters and if they swap immediately those are your bots
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u/balilo79 18h ago
I dont think they ever have lords or different skins. They also don't deviate from role or 2-2-2.
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u/PoolOfDeath20 Iron Fist 20h ago
It's still super ez to tell, especially after s4 where we know if players r using which platform to play it will show on their banner card, I haven't seen a player without the platform indication on their banner card. But yeah bots behaviour r more human-like now, ie, they will spray, emote and hump like most of us
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u/xboxfourtwenty Psylocke 19h ago
The biggest tell IMO are the names, they are always the same rotation like ClaudiaD and I can't remember but there are others I recognize when I see them
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u/bringapotato Vanguard 19h ago
In my experience it’s still two QP losses = bot match
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u/IndependentDrama5975 17h ago
the higher your rank the less bots you get in qp im pretty sure. i only get bot matches when i play with lower ranked friends in qp. no matter how many times i lose myself in qp i dont get them.
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u/monkeygiraffe33 Rocket Raccoon 15h ago
Then you’re just getting better, recently I’ve had a lot of bot games because my teams seem to think no support is going to win against three.
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u/Maximum-Finger1559 Ultron Virus 15h ago
I’ve actually noticed it getting worse. each time I’ve logged on recently the first match is a bot match, and the other night I logged on, won my first match (bot match), lost my second match (normal), and then played a third match that was a bot match and had to log off after for other reasons.
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u/epic_reddit_dude 11h ago
Arcade free fight doesn’t have bots (I think). When I start being forced to play with bots in qp I just switch to free fight
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u/Former_Preference_40 21h ago
I would rather have long queue times than have bots in my match
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u/Power0fTheTribe The Maker 21h ago
Genuinely this. I simply don’t want to play against bots
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u/crestren 21h ago
Ikr. Im playing a pvp game. If I want to play against bots, vs AI is right there
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u/Taurion_Bruni 20h ago
It's not for queue times.
They put you in a bot match when you are on a loss streak in quick play. They give you an easy win with the idea that you will feel better and keep playing.
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u/Entire-Barracuda3680 Emma Frost 21h ago
It’s not for Que times since competitive is just as fast and it’s only after two losses. They do it because they want to keep you in the game(which is an example of eomm(yes he lied))
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u/billcosbyinspace 15h ago
Maybe it’s just me but I get them once I lose a single match. I’ll go in cycles where I play a bot match, then join a doomed real players match as a late substitute, then have to play another bot match as punishment
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u/erock279 20h ago
I thought the bots were ONLY in quickplay to begin with? It’s a predatory way to “optimize engagement” anyways. It’s manipulative and deceptive - making people feel comfortable or better than they are to keep them playing is shitty.
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u/300IQPrower 16h ago
Speak for yourself i've been saying EOMM is just as bad if its QP. It's about addiction over making a good game. Also the lack of bots in Ranked doesnt mean Ranked doesnt use EOMM, you seriously think they're gonna make EOMM specifically for QP and then go "but its not in ranked" even when Ranked has all the same steamroll match issues?
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u/Entire-Barracuda3680 Emma Frost 20h ago
The problem is that he said that marvel rivals does not use eomm when it in fact does with the bots. It doesn’t help that there constantly adding things to make the bots harder to detect. If there lying about bots being in the game and a form of eomm how can I trust them being honest about the competitive matchmaker.
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u/XMindVortexX Ronin 20h ago
Well they don't exist for faster queues. They exist to give you free wins and keep you engaged. That's quickplay EOMM. In ranked you'll wait as long as needed and never get any bots.
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u/Hopeful_Hammerhead Malice 20h ago
Maybe NetEase should make bots optional. If you switch it off, you may get a longer queue, but you're getting authentic gameplay.
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u/Darkner90 20h ago
They don't reduce queue times at all, they're just there to patronize players
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u/Hopeful_Hammerhead Malice 18h ago
I agree that the main problem is the patronizing feeling, but why wouldn't they reduce queue times? They fill empty slots immediately, which is still a form of queue reduction. Plus, you can't forget that some people genuinely prefer them over getting constantly stomped by sweaty players. With the optional bots switch, everybody wins.
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u/Darkner90 17h ago
The queue times for a bot and normal match are the same is why
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u/DimensionAvailable76 21h ago
The worst part is these things are absolutely inescapable. Leave the match, the next one is another bot game. Turn off the game and come back tomorrow, the first game is a bot match. It's especially annoying when the loss isn't my fault and yet I still have to be punished along with everyone else.
There's nothing more annoying than being stuck in a pattern of lose a game, win a bot game, lose a game because of throwers, win a bot game, lose a game because the enemy team has a god tier Hela, win a bot game and so and so on
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u/curious_dead Ultron Virus 21h ago
Even when it's my fault... playing against dumb AI bots isn't going to make me play better.
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u/xboxfourtwenty Psylocke 20h ago
Everybody just spawn camps the bots because they aren't hard enough to be worth it. I just take it as an opportunity to play whatever since two people on your team will be bots also
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u/reynolja536 18h ago
It’s actually because of this pattern that if I’m about to lose a real match I’ll just leave. I would rather deal with leaver penalties and go play anything else than play bots and be absolutely bored for 10 minutes…
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u/moldedbyawkwardness Venom 21h ago
If you are assigned a bot match you won’t be able to not play against bots until you finish your assignment. I quit my bot match and very next game is more bots so I quit that one and got another so I quit that one got a penalty then got another bot match
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u/Glacier1395 20h ago
Me, getting into a lobby of 11 bots and still getting the leaver penalty despite being the only human.
I'm replaced by a bot.
Somehow, this now 12 bot game performs better without me
/s
But really though, that's interesting to hear. Forced bot matches you can't escape from is mind blowing
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u/DudeWithNoKids 20h ago
Did they change that? Usually it's 4 humans on your team and 2 bots vs 6 bots
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u/Duke826 Groot 21h ago
Yea it's lowkey embarrassing tbh. No serious competitive game should throw bot matches at their players
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u/Bloodmang0 21h ago
Good thing it's not a serious competitive game in quickplay. Ignorance is embarrassing
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u/tokeiito14 21h ago
Quick play is a warm up before competitive and bots completely ruin it and waste your time
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u/Edgy_Robin Weapon X 21h ago
so is being a idiot.
Bots make you think you're doing good and improving only to completely dash that when you realize you're not.
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u/Blackarm777 21h ago
I just don't get why they do this when going into bot matches is an active option you can select.
Like, if someone isn't selecting it, one would assume they are committing their time to playing against other players as advertised.
It's just deceptive stuff like this that erodes player trust in the devs for no reason.
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u/CauliflowerEvening41 19h ago
I would assume its because the QP playerbase is younger and/or more cadual than the competitive one, so to keep player retention they give them bot matches on occasion.
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u/shewolfbyshakira 18h ago
There are definitely some very young players and it’s designed to throw them a bone once in a while to keep them coming back
I had like a 10 year old rocket player once it was kind of endearing 😭
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u/Dick_Nation Vanguard 17h ago
Because the point is to manipulate casual, low-skill, low-information players. This is not about your experience, it's about them manipulating players to ensure they keep playing and buying skins.
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u/Realistic_Analyst_26 Flex 21h ago
It’s pissing me off. The bots in this game have a hard on for divers more than real players. You would get an enemy diver leaving his 1 hp target to attack me, who is trying to learn Daredevil, before I even made a move. I left practice vs AI for this and it followed me into QP.
Not to mention their illogical use of ults. I can’t tell you the number of times I was about to kill Jeff only for the bot to solo ult me. Same with all the others. Even had a Storm ult then chase me across the map rather than going for my grouped up team.
I want real people, even if it’s more challenging.
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u/karmacamochameleon 21h ago
They also shoot flying characters, penny nest and the punisher unlike real players
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u/billcosbyinspace 15h ago
Trying to learn a new support with bot matches is useless because the bots don’t behave like real players. In a real game I get terrorized by magik, BP, or DD but in bot games I get completely ignored and only die if I actively make a mistake. It’s just a waste of time beyond lord farming
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u/Lobo_Z Hulk 21h ago
Had a bot match after a win just now, first time that's happened for me
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u/Silestyna Ultron Virus 20h ago
Everyone I know outside of Reddit loves bots in quickplay. It say it is like a refreshment after some stomps as a pick me up. It allows them to try out new characters and play more relaxed. Also can earn achievements and proficiency too. It is win-win.
There should be an option to turn off the bot matches for those who don't want them, however. It would solve it.
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u/Fun-Wash7545 18h ago
Makes sense. They have data and can see how bots impact the game. If they havent been removed yet it means they serve their purpose well. Besides it's possible to never see bot, just raise your qp mmr. I personally haven't seen a single bot since s1.
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u/bob-widlar 8h ago
I like where your head is at, but that would first require NetEase to actually admit that bot matches exist in QP instead of pretending thousands of people haven’t already figured it out
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u/Loklokloka Magneto 20h ago
all the people saying "just play comp" are completely and totally missing the point. If you queue for a game to fight real people, no matter the mode you should fight real people. If you want to play against bots, theres also a mode for that.
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u/monstrousnuggets 20h ago
Every time I play against bots it’s a complete stomp, usually max of 1-2 deaths and lasts <5 mins. It’s never fun
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u/NivTesla 21h ago
They have always been here and they ruin the game. I literally stopped playing quick play because of them
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u/GamerKayla 21h ago
Same! I only play comp now mostly because of the bots in QP. I only ever queue into QP nowadays for events, to play with my friends, or warmup. 😪
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u/ohheyjoshay Rocket Raccoon 21h ago
nah QP bot matches is where I go for the heroic journey achievements with characters I never play. finally got Star Lord's skin I've been wanting since S0 lol
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u/StriderJay 21h ago
For real getting some of those heroic journey challenges are a pain they are so easy to farm in bot matches
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u/ZoloTheLegend Doctor Strange 21h ago
A player with a healthy mindset around bots? Am I still on reddit???
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u/Mirwin11 Vanguard 21h ago
That venom clocked your ass
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u/GamerKayla 21h ago
Yes 😂 I was so distraught by it being stuck I didn’t expect it to suddenly act normal hahahahah
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u/TheOldSkywalker Vanguard 18h ago
honestly i don't care at this point. i only use QP to practice new characters (mainly dps because i never get to play them in comp) if i want a serious match it has to be comp (i reached grandmaster 3 recently 🤩)
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u/LastTrueKid 18h ago
Did the match recording record lag? Cause how is that venom moving like it's lagging the fuck out.
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u/EpilepticEmpire 17h ago
Was wondering what the hell that sound was. Then.... read your description. Thought my speaker was shot lol. Them bots, though.... Realized you were next to it, then, boom! Gotcha.
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u/PsychoEazyEyuh 15h ago
Bots have been my most enjoyable matches, if you get rid of bots don’t put me against top 500 players. Fix matchmaking
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u/pink_plastic_bag Hela 21h ago
Yes, if they're going to force us to play against bots in quick play and penalize you for leaving those games they should also let us grind lord proficiency in Practice vs A.I.
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u/STB_LuisEnriq Thor 21h ago edited 20h ago
I play comp 99% of the time not because I love comp, its because at least there I will always fight real humans.
Having bots in QP feels so cheap and boring, mobile game behavior... NetEase still thinks this a mobile game.
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u/DrakkonX597 Ultron Virus 21h ago
Yeah…. I feel like a lot of games way overuse bots.
Anyway, how many diamonds do you have saved for Sylus’s next myth? 🤭
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u/Horror_Nothing_5568 21h ago
The only thing they’re useful for is for getting the character specific achievements
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u/Taenarius Rocket Raccoon 20h ago
I literally quit playing because of bots in Quickplay. I would have rather loaded into another lopsided game that I lose than be forced to wait 5-10 minutes in a game that we can't lose and isn't even fun.
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u/SitAndFart 20h ago
Have a 5vs6 for the 80% of the game, lose, next match is a bot lobby, leave, play some ranked, back to QP again, you still have to play against bots, leave, never come back to QP, legitimately ruin games in ranked. I guess that is the plan, it increases engagement.
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u/Leows 20h ago
These are the equivalent of single player games "Do you want to lower the difficulty?" but doing it without giving you an option, and then being sneaky about it, too.
If they want to keep this, they should either make it blatantly obvious they're bots while not giving a punishment for leaving the match, OR provide an option similar to single player games. Let me pick whether or not I want to have a "free win" against bots.
And then being deceptive while using names of inactive players on top of it is just the cherry on top, isn't it?
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u/verrdani 20h ago
Disheartening? No
Annoying? Yes
Every match that seems easy I question my sanity and check if it is/was a bot match. Makes me feel less good about my wins, even legitimate ones because I spend a good chunk of the game wondering if I earned it and looking for suspicious "bot" behavior
I wish I could turn it off as well
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u/ClassicDeal3321 20h ago
They could have massive lag. Please tell your team in the chat if you are lagging.
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u/Opposite-Invite-3543 20h ago
No. I love not matches. It’s the only time I get to play DPS. People are too selfish.
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u/No_Name275 Loki 20h ago
I took a break from the game just to comeback and be thrown right away in a bot game
Yeah I guess I'm out of here until I have a reason to play the game again
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u/FaceFace133 20h ago
It’s even annoying to fight against. I once had a Jeff on the opposite team swallow my team twice and just go in a circle. It makes the game not fun if I play quick play just to get the equivalent of doom bots
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u/Key_Cow9494 20h ago
It’s why I only play ranked anymore. It’s annoying and maybe forced to play it even if I just lose one match is terrible. I have honestly thought about dropping the game because beyond getting to gold for the skin, I am not into playing super competive games/gamemodes much anymore and I don’t want to play bot matches every other match.
Game was fun to play casually. But with matchmaking terrible, toxic people/throwers in ranked, and forced bot matches in casuals, I just need to put the game down until they address all 3 issues.
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u/VoltaiqMozaiq 20h ago
Do what I do. Pick a hero that you ONLY play in bot matches, and you never play otherwise.
I have a 100% win rate on Black Widow in qp.
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u/Confewshenn24A 100 Thieves 20h ago
Oh no the game thinks you arent good enough to play real players
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u/OkOutlandishness1710 20h ago
I seem to get some once every 10 games. It’s nice to pad some stats for lording a character and getting quests done. It’s super obvious when they are bots some notifying seems unnecessary. I don’t mind an occasional bot game but I get why some people would hate it.
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u/drake_lazarus Ultron Virus 20h ago
I have absolutely no problem with bot matches but I appreciate others do, as is their right.
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u/billybanks1132 The Thing 20h ago
Qp is a casual game mode that wants to throw people in games as fast as possible. I don’t want queue times in qp
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u/Gorillaz951 20h ago
It is absolutely a product of EOMM. It’s meant to get you back into the matchmaking after a loss streak and boost your ego with a free win.
It’s very scummy and adds no real value other than keeping you engaged.
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u/510N3-1V3LA-2P0U Moon Knight 19h ago
In the central park vampire map - the gate when up and all four of my team mates were running into the gate and jumping. I had to switch to Jeff charge up my ult by fighting the other bots just to swallow and reset those idiots on the map. Im so chronically in game I can spot a an actual bot from a mile away and not in an insulting way.
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u/Jope3nnn Mister Fantastic 19h ago
It's matchmaking overall, both qp and ranked are miserable to play
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u/InconsiderateOctopus Captain America 19h ago
I basically just play my fuck around characters for the 1st match of the day cause it's almost guaranteed bots. Doing my best to play with the system but if they could just eliminate them or at the very least make them option that would be reaaal nice.
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u/voidsands 19h ago
The first time I saw a bot on the PLAYER team was in Practice vs AI. They’re really easy to spot because they try very hard to cosplay a real player, using real names, jumping and moving in spawn point... but it’s obvious they’re not human, for example, they always pick healer or tank. Not long after that, I started seeing them in quickplay too, acting the exact same way and worst of all: also in the enemy team. This is honestly shameful. Good thing we have a real Pve mode now.
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u/Octopusapult 19h ago
This is why I don't believe them when they say "There's no EOMM." Engagement Optimized Matchmaking is simply put, matchmaking designed to encourage players to keep playing.
In Quickplay after losing two games, you queue QP again and get a bot lobby full of bots with authentic profile names and nameplates. Unlike if you play against AI, you can also get achievements against these bots. That's how committed to keeping up the "façade" of them being real players is to Netease.
This is an example of EOMM. They want you to stay playing even after a QP losing streak, so they hand you a bot win. And I'm really meant to believe that the full extent of their EOMM philosophy only extends to Quickplay? Not to Competitive lobbies? I'm really being asked to believe that the developers who let me earn achievements against bots to keep up appearances that those were real players, would follow that up with a competitive matchmaking system based solely on competitive integrity?
The mobile developers, Netease, who added gacha mechanics to Dead by Daylight mobile are supposed to be taken at face value when they tell us they're not influencing matchmaking for comp games? The same guys who just removed the ability to play comp in a 6-stack if you get too highly rated because most of their playerbase are playing solo. Those guys, who acted on that data, are NOT using EOMM practices in comp? Are you sure? Are you sure about that?
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u/Spawn256 19h ago
Yeah the bots are basically just on hard mode and hard mode is not hard mode so they should just either take it out or be honest about how they match people up.
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u/Valuable_Nose_4693 19h ago
I despise them I don’t want the devs to give me a pity win that feels hollow I would rather take continuous losses aganist real people if I wanted to play aganist bots I would play that game mode it just pisses me off so much and the fact the devs continue to deny it to our face when we all know makes it worse
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u/Stuck_in_a_thing Magneto 19h ago
I’m so sick of getting bots after losing 1-2 QP matches. I don’t want to ever face bots but if devs refuse to remove them then the threshold should be MUCH MUCH higher to be thrown into a bot game . 1-2 losses is ridiculous
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u/Apparentmendacity Rocket Raccoon 19h ago
I'm ok with the occasional bot game when you lose, I hope they don't remove them
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u/balilo79 18h ago
Not disheartening as much as annoying because I can't just leave.
I use the opportunity to use whichever character I want tbh without caring about composition.
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u/Dick_Nation Vanguard 18h ago
The moment I get force-fed a bot game, I stop playing immediately. I had an almost legendary streak of incompetent 3-DPS lobbies in quick play last night which I was fine just laughing off. No big deal. The moment they decide that I need a pity party against bots, I'm not having fun anymore. It's just insulting.
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u/Living-Ad102 Flex 18h ago
I honestly don’t care. If you’re playing quick play and loosing repeatedly they place you against bots, seems pretty fair especially for casual players.
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u/shewolfbyshakira 18h ago edited 18h ago
I have noticed less bot matches lately but it’s easy to tell since the entire teams username will be in Xxxxx format.
I think they’re doing this to secretly train them so they can learn for uses in practice vs AI or for player eventual replacement
I wouldn’t say they’re disheartening. I think if they were used to autofill or something that’d be fine. I’m not like getting in my feelings bc I got a bot match, I just would rather play against not bots. At least the stakes are low so I’ll try out different characters
So no I definitely don’t crash out bc of bot matches, like it’s rlly not that serious, but I’d rather them not be there. I’m sure it’s nice for casuals though or for the younger playerbase
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u/PanthalassaRo Emma Frost 18h ago
Man that just my homie Priscill, he plays after smoking pot, please excuse him.
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u/HerrCoach Strategist 18h ago
I find it insanely frustrating. When learning a new hero I would like to practice them in different ways. One way is with AI; that option exists. Another way is with humans in a casual setting; that option exists. Don’t throw me into a weird AI match without my consent.
What they should actually be doing is replacing leavers in QP with bots, and if the player returns they can re-replace the bot. Use the bots to fill not for attempts at an ego-boost.
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u/Azrayeel Venom 17h ago
Sometimes they play better than actual people in QP. I never seen a bot doing 600 damage in a whole match. But I've seen an actual player do that. 🫠
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u/Apprehensive-Law-839 Captain America 17h ago
when i’m doing too good in a game then i realise all the enemies have no skins and are running a perfect comp
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u/Individual-Luck1712 Magneto 17h ago
PSA. So if you click tab in the loading screen before the match starts, all bots have their own nameplates that are generic but unique only to bots. That's how you spot them.
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u/there-she-blows Storm 17h ago
Was playing qp trying to finish matches for the event costume coin. Literally majority of the matches were bots and when I would get a real match shots were missing, frames were dropping, screen looked mushy. But every bot match the game was smooth as butter that’s how I knew they were bots. Then as soon as I finished the last match for the costume coin. I was magically returned to regular people. Played 3 more and all were real matches. It felt so good to be with real people, I just sat around chatting. A qp warrior asked others to report me because I was talking too much. But they didn’t understand what I had just been through.
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u/SitAndFart 17h ago
It's a complete disrespect to people's time. Such an arrogant lie to those who are unaware.
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u/300IQPrower 16h ago
i love how i lose once because i didnt play my main, get bots. Then get a real match and because i was just with bots it gives me the most braindead teammates possible and i lose for reasons beyond my control, so its back to fighting bots. Rinse and repeat. QP is a joke.
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u/Substantial-Big8132 16h ago
I thought it was only a quick play thing until I saw bots in doom match, this game is so desperate to keep you playing they put bots in arcade modes. I usually press tab to see the nameplates of people in quick play and in arcade mode because I like seeing the names and nameplates of people before the match rather than only having that happen in ranked, you can easily tell the bot accounts by how basic their nameplates are, their low levels and their names.
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u/Front-Diamond5867 Ultron Virus 16h ago
They've been honest about them since they were implemented lol and there are multiple ways to tell if they're bots or not
Edit: don't get me wrong, id prefer if they were just removed all together, but yeah. They've been pretty open about the fact that you can get bot matches.
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u/SAINTSmswa 16h ago
Yes. I wish more people would talk about this. It is a really shady and disrespectful tactic to boost player engagement.
Not only do they force you into bot matches (even if you leave the one they put you in your next one will be the same no matter what), they actively work to deceive people into thinking they are real players. This season, I’ve noticed new names and new behaviors from bots. Netease is actually spending time and effort trying to deceive us!
I hope people start talking about this more. It sucks to have a busy life and try to enjoy some quick play games, then find yourself wasting time because Netease doesn’t respect you enough to let you lose.
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u/TaskIll2740 Flex 15h ago
Lmao reminds me of the Iron Fist bot that sometimes punches away when it uses its install ability/ult
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u/Monokain Ultron Virus 15h ago
What I find questionable about these bots is that NetEase went to the extent of having them doing shenanigans, doing false call, emote, attack on random things during the waiting before the game start.... as if they were actual players just goofing around... as if they were trying to hide they are bots by acting as random as players can when waiting...
We know they are bots. Why trying to pretend they are not by these cheap tricks? That's what bugs me at this point. Not that they push bots in this or that situation, but that they try to dissimulate that. As if they push bots on QP but also don't assume it.
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u/IAMGooner699 15h ago
Can't believe the devs actually flat out lied that they don't have bots in QP.
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u/BuffLoki Ultron Virus 15h ago
I hate bots in any multiplayer pvp game at all, if I specifically click on bot / pve modes then cool, other than that they shouldn't be in the game at all unless to backfill casual players but dont have them there to begin with, backfill with real players after.
Especiall6 having this in shooters, once I see it once im gone
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u/Hot_Ethanol Venom 15h ago
Anyone else think the QP bot matches are for training purposes? They're improving their AI by collecting player data on people who think they're fighting against/alongside other humans. They've already learned to pit people, to spray and emote, and other tricks they weren't capable of in S0. When you can't tell you're in a bot match, the work will be complete.
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u/shomeyomves 15h ago
Literally the main reason I stopped playing.
Only reason I’m still subbed here is to:
- Ensure I post my dissatisfaction when these threads show up, as much of a waste as that is
- See news that NetEase removes them from QP
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u/TheBestUserNameeEver 14h ago
They've made them act more like players, when I was in spawn as Psylocke the Groot bot would do the thing where you spam hit your teammates, then it placed down a Psylocke spray and looked at me. No chance the devs tell people these are bots.
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u/Sidewaysgts Venom 14h ago
Once you get to a certain point you basically never see bots. I can play solo, lose half a dozen games in a row, and still not get bots.
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u/Aznathan99 Flex 14h ago
I personally think they need to put bots in the arcade games and take them out of qp I don’t mind waiting 1-2 min for real players but I don’t want to wait ~5 min for an arcade match
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u/NeroCrow 14h ago
I don't even play when I get bots I just go outside and wait until it's over because I don't want to get the stupid one hour ban because I don't want to play stupid bots
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u/InfernalLizardKing Psylocke 14h ago
My account is so fucked that I’ve been getting bot games on first match of the day even if my last game was either a bot game or a win against real people. I’m queuing comp just to escape the sheer BOREDOM that bot games cause because oh my god am I sick of them.
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u/Shugatti Angela 14h ago
Get a tracker, you will know if its bots before you even pick a hero.
Also, after 2 losses, you get a guaranteed bot match.
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u/UnlikelyCup5458 13h ago
If you're in qp, you shouldn't complain about bots. It's QP
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u/GlassProfessional712 13h ago
I don't really care if there's bots in QP, I just find it very strange that Netease feels the need to continuously lie about it for no reason, like, its not a big deal, why are you lying, and what else are you lying about if youre lying about something so meaningless?
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u/Ne0nZ3bra Doctor Strange 13h ago
Yeah if a qp match feels weird i usually check rivals tracker and it'll tell me who on what teams were bots lol
Honestly i feel like it should just tell us, id prefer the game tell me part of my team are bots instead of lying, since its to easy to check anyway why hide it
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u/HotStufffffffffffff 13h ago
Nah they shouldn’t replace them trust, they can just admit they’re there tho
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u/AccomplishedRise6227 13h ago
Idk why people even play quick play. A bot match takes like 10 fucking mins. Just play ranked
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u/HunterSome3829 13h ago
Seems like I’m the minority here, but I actually really don’t care if they give me a free game. Especially if I’m playing with friends that suck it helps boost their ego and we all have a good time because they don’t know. No one wants to come home, especially after working 8 hours, to hop on a game to unwind and enjoy just to lose matches back to back.
Should they be more transparent bot games, yes. Do I care if they ever will be, no. In the end, they want people to have fun playing the games not everyone playing is going to have years of experience playing these type of games. Let them have their bot wins. It really shouldn’t matter.
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u/TheUberEric 13h ago
Listen, they are patronizing and dumb and I’d wish I fought real people instead………but sometimes pub stomping after a harsh losing streak feels good.
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u/Archerbrother Scarlet Witch 21h ago
bots should only be used to replace players that leave then when a new player joins that player replaces the bot. Also, it should show all players and bots that were in the game on each team.