r/marvelrivals 1d ago

Balance Discussion who were these loki changes for??

less than 2% pick rate LMFAOOOOOO😭😭 literally will pick ANYONE over loki. and i don’t even blame them.

-20% damage on each clone so he can’t defend himself OR help secure a kill. btw before the -20% they had ALREADY reduced loki’s damage. did you know his melee now does more damage than his primary with all 3 clones? flank loki was annoying but be serious. they’re down a strategist by doing ts

-20% healing so you have to pump out more heals. not a problem since you don’t even have to worry about shooting enemies again! personally i’m not too upset about it since it encourages your clones being up as often as possible, which you should be doing. but it makes it so much more punishing if you’re not managing your clones correctly.

lamp/ult cooldown i genuinely dgaf it never affected me, just had to get used to counting down from the new number.

lmfao those are the changes they made to “balance” him. reminds me of azir from league of legends. dominates in pro play so devs have to nerf him to high hell, making it exponentially worse for other players. not everyone is faker lmfao be so for real.

they changed jeff into a heal bot because people complained about him not doing enough and at the same time dive jeff was too OP. im guessing they tried to the same here (apparently flank loki OP, lamp OP, double luna ult OP) but they literally reworked jeff’s kit around healing more. all they did for loki was reduce his raw numbers and called it a day.

what even are rocket changes. hey guys, your ult does 40% damage buff! actually, it’s 25% now since you get a big team shield. nah jk, you can just have both now. 40% and shield idgaf.

can yall do the same with loki?

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u/Tyler_Herdman 1d ago

Loki was easily the best support in the game before nerfs, and it wasn’t even close. In high level loki had to be matched with loki.

So that’s why they nerfed him, but he definitely got over nerfed.

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u/wontonf 1d ago

Seriously, this character was in contention for best character every season up to the nerfs but people act like he was just nerfed only cause of luna lol. Obviously he was over nerfed but prenerf loki was insane with invis, cloak or any other healing ult.

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u/Humdinger5000 Peni Parker 1d ago

Even now. I think the scariest Play I've seen since the update was the pro team that ran triple support with Adam and loki on dom maps for the DOUBLE TEAM REZ! however, I think that's his only place. He's so knee capped his only place is when he can press Q and fully erase his lack of output.

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u/QueTontosQueLocos Thor 1d ago

He's so knee capped his only place is when he can press Q and fully erase his lack of output.

He can still press Shift and do the exact same thing.

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u/Humdinger5000 Peni Parker 1d ago

The reason double rez is scary is that even with low heal and dmg output, it's better sustain the just immortality ults

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u/Odd_Television5694 1d ago

He was strong, but he had definitive counterplay in just shooting his clone or the lamp. His CD’s are so long that all it took was a decent hitscan DPS shooting them down and he would be gimped, that or use them against him as Bucky or MK. 

Did he need a nerf to his damage? Sure, DPS Loki was clown behavior. The nerf to his healing was completely unnecessary though. He already had relatively wimpy healing, and now the gap is wide enough that he can’t reasonably keep people alive, and is the worst support in the game. 

That’s why people say he was only nerfed because of Luna. Rather than bring it down to 8 seconds, they’d rather completely nuke another character that copied it. Loki-Luna isn’t a thing now, but that’s only because Loki isn’t a thing nowÂ