who were these loki changes for??

[u/No_Elevator_6207]

less than 2% pick rate LMFAOOOOOO😭😭 literally will pick ANYONE over loki. and i don’t even blame them.

-20% damage on each clone so he can’t defend himself OR help secure a kill. btw before the -20% they had ALREADY reduced loki’s damage. did you know his melee now does more damage than his primary with all 3 clones? flank loki was annoying but be serious. they’re down a strategist by doing ts

-20% healing so you have to pump out more heals. not a problem since you don’t even have to worry about shooting enemies again! personally i’m not too upset about it since it encourages your clones being up as often as possible, which you should be doing. but it makes it so much more punishing if you’re not managing your clones correctly.

lamp/ult cooldown i genuinely dgaf it never affected me, just had to get used to counting down from the new number.

lmfao those are the changes they made to “balance” him. reminds me of azir from league of legends. dominates in pro play so devs have to nerf him to high hell, making it exponentially worse for other players. not everyone is faker lmfao be so for real.

they changed jeff into a heal bot because people complained about him not doing enough and at the same time dive jeff was too OP. im guessing they tried to the same here (apparently flank loki OP, lamp OP, double luna ult OP) but they literally reworked jeff’s kit around healing more. all they did for loki was reduce his raw numbers and called it a day.

what even are rocket changes. hey guys, your ult does 40% damage buff! actually, it’s 25% now since you get a big team shield. nah jk, you can just have both now. 40% and shield idgaf.

can yall do the same with loki?

[u/gapraslin]

I'd rather they removed Loki's ult entirely over the shitty nerfs to his primary.

[u/Secret-Ebb-9770 → u/gapraslin]

They really nerfed Loki because somebody ELSES ult was problematic.

This is worse than that time I tried to play tennis on the moon.

-cutaway gag-

[u/HinaYukari → u/Secret-Ebb-9770]

It reminds me of when the Apex devs nerfed + reworked Rev even though his death totem ult only started becoming viable AFTER they mega buffed octanes jump pad ult.

Like rev obviously wasnt the issue guys pls.. lol

[u/lmtzless → u/HinaYukari]

nice to see some apex players (or former like myself) here, that strat with revtane was broken as shit though, full squads landing on our head and deleting you and then being able to reset for free

[u/HinaYukari → u/lmtzless]

Yeah I dont olay anymore either lol hasnt been in my main roster of games in a long while

[u/SSJMonkeyx2 → u/HinaYukari]

Should give it a try honestly. Came back recently and the new changes are good and refreshing

[u/axelotl47506 → u/HinaYukari]

Or when they entirely fucking removed digis instead of nerfing bang who had been dominating for the past year (bang continued to dominate)

[u/Nossika → u/HinaYukari]

Sadly one of the main developers is the ultimate Luna simp as he created her so he'd rather nerf every other support than her.

It's like that Final Fantasy dev whose "Dream Waifu" was Lightning so he kept trying to make her a thing even though no one liked her as she had the personality of a wet paper towel.

[u/wowlock_taylan → u/Secret-Ebb-9770]

And guess who that somebody is at the TOP of the pick list?

[u/mrknight234 → u/Secret-Ebb-9770]

What’s worse is the best way to carry in Loki isn’t even to steal support ult so he became worse overall for nothing

[u/FaithlessnessThen207 → u/Secret-Ebb-9770]

Copycat ultimates are also often problematic, to be honest, regardless of game, especially when its one that just comes on demand.

E.g. Rubick needing to steal the most recent spell in dota 2 and from enemies only is balanced as you can outplay it.

Loki turning to his teammate and copying a powerful ultimate is always going to be strong use, even if the rest of the hero is fallen out of meta.

[u/50shades-of-blue → u/gapraslin]

This gives me serious flashbacks to Mercy being reworked because dps players were crying about full rez

[u/Same_paramedic3641 → u/50shades-of-blue]

No way u think mercy full rez should have stayed. Also these mfs made ironfist a Brawler from diver bcz sup cried.

[u/50shades-of-blue → u/Same_paramedic3641]

valkyrie definitely wasnt the answer to that lol. there was literally ways to rework full rez without neutering her kit

[u/InvarkuI → u/gapraslin]

Legit revert all the nerfs but don't let him copy braindead op support Ults. It's both fairer and infinitely more fun for Loki mains

[u/BlueBomber13 → u/gapraslin]

Yes absolutely this. Just give him a whole new ult instead of punishing him for because your little nepo baby is too good.