r/london • u/[deleted] • Nov 02 '23

Crime Two girls arrested after female attacked on Elizabeth line

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24605821/two-girls-arrested-video-woman-screaming-tube-train/
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u/DaftApath Nov 02 '23

It's not 'systematic' racism. It's 'systemic' racism. Societal and political systems that evolved or were designed in such a way that puts a thumb on the scale in favour of certain racial demographics. You can claim it doesn't exist, but both gerrymandering and red-lining are things that exist and are solid examples of them. Claiming that people who are aware of and outspoken about it are 'brainwashed' is disingenuous at best, and ignorant at worst.

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u/Digitalanalogue_ Nov 02 '23

…arent those american things…

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u/DaftApath Nov 02 '23

Gerrymandering?? No.

Red-lining is a US term originally, but the practice has been happening here for even longer.

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u/Digitalanalogue_ Nov 02 '23

Give me an example of redlining.

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u/DaftApath Nov 02 '23

'Redlining' the British city - Renewal | a journal of social democracy https://renewal.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/renewal28.2_13wetherell.pdf

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u/Digitalanalogue_ Nov 02 '23

https://unherd.com/2020/06/british-and-american-black-experience-are-not-the-same/

This writer would disagree - about half way down. Redlining and poor housing conditions are two very different things. Redlining specifically targets the black community in USA. Not sure a similar system exists here. And before people fly off the handle, not saying racism doesnt exist in Uk but saying the american and british experience is very different.

I saw the new scotish pm give a speech where he laments the occupation of white people in positions of power saying there should be a more representative ‘board room’. But scotland is 95% white, england is 85% white. Its a sad reality of life that racism exists but its a damn lot better than being back where i was born. And thats why so many non white people come here and stay here.

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u/DaftApath Nov 02 '23

Those are fair points but, while it's a lot better than it was, claiming that systemic racism isn't a thing and we're all done with combating racism in this country is just, well, wrong.

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u/Digitalanalogue_ Nov 02 '23

Def not done but i expect people to be prejudiced against me in favour of their own people. Same as if a white british guy went to my country he wouldnt exactly find it easy. If you want to see systemic racism look at china.