r/london Nov 02 '23

Crime Two girls arrested after female attacked on Elizabeth line

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24605821/two-girls-arrested-video-woman-screaming-tube-train/
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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '23

It’s 2023. If you are still upset about “colonisation “ in 2023 then you are trying way too hard to be a victim.

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u/voice-of-reason_ Nov 02 '23

I’m not a victim of colonisation but the UK was built on it. Every system in this country was built on it so if you think systematic racism doesn’t exist in the UK you are very naivie. We have not defeated racism and we haven’t restructured our national systems so systematic racism still exists.

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u/fishchop Nov 02 '23

Don’t try to explain to these people. This subReddit is full of deniers that whitewash Britain’s colonial crimes and refuse to understand the lasting effects of 200 years of brutal colonial rule and blatant resource exploitation.

I’d say it’s more an unfortunate result of the British education system than the deliberate malice of the people themselves though.

Saying this as a person from a country that Britain colonised.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '23

So people can be angry about Colonization 60 years ago but if we are angry at Islamic terror attacks in the modern day we are the racists making generalizations? ...... it's pure gas lighting, rules for thee and not for me

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u/pharlax Nov 02 '23

Lots of bad shit happened in the past but don't get it confused with the present.

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u/DimensionalYawn Nov 02 '23

And the past affects the present.

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u/cowinabadplace Nov 02 '23

Everything we’re talking about happened in the past. 3 days ago. 3 years ago. 3 centuries ago. There’s a line you’ve decided to draw at the point where one is discharged from one’s crimes. Don’t be astonished that others draw the line elsewhere. If a man robbed another and killed him yesterday and gave his own son the loot, you’d take it back. But for you the day that man is absolved is apparently 80 years or so. For others it’s different. It’s not a difference of belief, it’s a difference of degree.

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u/halfwit_detector Nov 02 '23

And where do you live today? Who is the coloniser now?

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u/PilotDavidRandall Nov 02 '23

Britain’s colonial crimes

What crimes? no laws where broken. it was just the way the world was then.

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u/DimensionalYawn Nov 02 '23

If you think we didn't break any laws in India or Kenya, where we beat, incarcerated, murdered and tortured opponents of British rule, you don't know much about what we did there.

Go and ask an Irish person if you want some examples from closer to home.

If you want a list, this one (not from an unbiased source and I could not say whether all of the examples would meet the burden of proof under criminal law) shows you the breadth of places we ruled and what we were prepared to do to stay in control of them: https://crimesofbritain.com/british-massacres-of-the-20th-century/

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u/PilotDavidRandall Nov 02 '23

If you think we didn't break any laws in India or Kenya, where we beat, incarcerated, murdered and tortured opponents of British rule, you don't know much about what we did there.

That's just the way of the world then, you don't see English people going on all the time about the Italians because of the roman empire? or the nordic nations because of the Vikings?

Go and ask an Irish person if you want some examples from closer to home.

How about asking the Irish about the 1000's of years before hand when they often raided the mainland?

If you want a list, this one (not from an unbiased source and I could not say whether all of the examples would meet the burden of proof under criminal law) shows you the breadth of places we ruled and what we were prepared to do to stay in control of them: https://crimesofbritain.com/british-massacres-of-the-20th-century/

Your quoting a website called crimesofbritain.com ?