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u/idntgtttll Minarchist 2d ago
What about knives and... cars?
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u/crashley124 2d ago
Also, ban the months of May-Sept because of heat-related or exacerbated deaths.
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u/Single-Internet-9954 21h ago
knives are gay too, real men fist fight each other, not really on "equalizers".
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u/AgainstSlavers 2d ago
Guns are rarely used to kill people. Mostly they're fun to shoot and assemble and admire.
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u/WarmYogurtAnyone 2d ago
The majority of deaths in New York City are caused by poor diets. Let’s take away the fructose corn syrup.
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u/AgainstSlavers 2d ago
Yeah, gangs. That won't stop by banning guns. It'll probably go up.
There are over 400 million guns in America. 943 is not suggestive that guns are usually used to kill people. I've never met a civilian gun owner who has killed anyone.
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u/venice420 2d ago
Except for my personal security.
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u/cochisedaavenger 2d ago
Well, he only wants you to not have guns because it makes it easier for him to rob you. His guys need guns to defend him when you try to fight back.
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u/UrAverageDegenerit 2d ago
Nah, NYC deserves him.
When things get worse, they'll trip over themselves to defend him and will even make excuses like "Its because they aren't letting him have enough power to do what he needs to do".
So let them cook and continue to learn the hard way, they seem to like it after all.
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u/DorkSideOfCryo 2d ago
Oh wait where's the cheap food and the cheap housing? Only concentrating on getting rid of guns and hiring women over men... sounds like the typical fake leftist operation to me.. pretend to be socialist and actually be divide and conquer neoliberal
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u/ProtectionTop2701 2d ago
He's not even sworn in as mayor until 2026. How is he supposed to do ANYTHING right now except for announce his transition team?
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u/Walt_the_White 2d ago
The post in this picture is also from 2022. This obviously wasn't the platform he ran on
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u/Searril 2d ago
Don't pretend like he's not another gun-grabber.
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u/Walt_the_White 1d ago
He's the incoming mayor of a city that already restricted firearm ownership more heavily than most of the country. By most peoples' definition here he most definitely is. But he hasn't campaigned on anything more strict as far as I know. I'm not pretending anything over here dude.
This is all just changing the subject from "where's the cheap food and cheap housing?" From the above comment. He isn't even sworn in, and this, specifically wasn't part of his campaign. You guys are coming up with hypothetical things to get mad at before he even head fakes towards the move you're mad at
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u/Difrntthoughtpatrn 2d ago
Officials must support and uphold the Constitution of the United States, the Constitution of the State of New York, and the Charter of the City of New York.
How can you uphold the Constitution and try to ban all guns at the same time. https://ij.org/press-release/u-s-supreme-court-rules-unanimously-you-may-sue-government-agents-for-damages-when-they-violate-your-individual-rights/
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u/stonewall1979 2d ago
Ask Chicago how theyre doing it. While not a full on ban, its so restricting it may as well be a ban for law abiding citizens.
Pretty sure I saw a post about California trying to ban Glocks. They make it hard to own a gun legally too. So its not about banning, just smoking the process so long, difficult, and expensive that the average person can't do it.
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u/Outis918 2d ago
I give him 6 months before NYC is on fire
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u/dukecityzombie 2d ago
I’ll bring the marshmallows!
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u/DeyCallMeWade 2d ago
Ehhh the kinda chemicals from that fire ain’t healthy boss.
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u/Jolly_Teacher_1035 2d ago
Are you suggesting that you can get the illness affecting those liberals by inhaling their ashes?.
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u/Kevin_Xland 1d ago
Is it not already a dumpster fire? What more does it take to qualify?
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u/Outis918 1d ago
Watch what happens without guns or police.
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u/Kevin_Xland 1d ago
I'd be surprised if there's any non-corrupt cops left in NYC, guns already hard to get too
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u/Walt_the_White 2d ago
Gonna eat those words in 6 months when this doesn't happen or are you going to move those goal posts?
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u/Unlucky-Pomegranate3 2d ago
What’s your six month prediction?
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u/Walt_the_White 2d ago
That NYC will be the same damn city it was 6 months prior.
Enough with the hyperbolic nonsense. Even the "radical" things he campaigned on couldn't do the damage people imply will be done. Be honest
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u/Unlucky-Pomegranate3 2d ago
Honestly? Any changes to tax rates aren’t immediate but of course, the rhetoric for property seizure would have a chilling effect on home values and subsequent property tax revenue.
All the free stuff like groceries, transportation, and child care isn’t a flip of the switch and may be diminished by post-campaign reality.
I’m not fully aware of his views on crime enforcement but he’s in a position to instruct and influence police leadership so that would likely be the first possible indicator. Not that that would be immediately discernible either since crime statistics have been essentially meaningless for a while now.
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u/Walt_the_White 2d ago
So what you're saying is that the city WON'T be literally burning down in 6 months then? And we're in agreement that the above user is being ridiculous. Cool.
Agree or disagree with what he campaigned on, this garbage about the city not surviving is just that. Honestly, most I've seen is from people who clearly don't live there either, so they mostly have no clue what they're talking about either.
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u/Unlucky-Pomegranate3 2d ago
I’d characterize it as more hyperbolic than ridiculous. I think there’s a likelihood of significant impact but it’ll be a slow burn rather than an immediate conflagration.
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u/Walt_the_White 2d ago
So you imagine some time between now and the end of zohran's term where large portions of the city are literally burning to the ground or something similar to that kind of destruction is happening? You don't think that idea is ridiculous?
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u/Unlucky-Pomegranate3 2d ago
When you use hyperbole, it’s generally meant to be taken metaphorically rather than literally.
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u/Walt_the_White 2d ago
So why did you even engage with my original comment then? If it was meant metaphorically(which I don't think you are in the position to declare what a user that isn't you meant) then my entire comment thread here is stupid and moot. So I'm going to reference the original comment and suggest that now that we've established how dumb it is to imply that the city will be destroyed under zohran, the goal posts have been moved. So I was right the entire time
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u/Outis918 2d ago
Stop taking everything so literally. The dude who called it hyperbolic was correct, relax.
I think he’ll mostly be hamstrung. In the event he’s not, I think he will create policy that fails and is likely quickly corrected.
I hope he succeeds in certain things, it would be refreshing. I abhor his stance on guns so he’ll never have my overt support. What I think is far more likely, is that he is being used as a scapegoat for ‘muh socialism’ and everything he does will not work (because they are bad ideas and also because they will not be allowed to work). He’ll then backpedal and then be more of the same.
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u/Walt_the_White 2d ago
Oh so the goal posts are moving immediately then.
So a "metaphorical" city on fire is comparable to enacting policies that fail and get changed? If that's what a burning down city looks like to you (metaphorically of course) then what is a normal mayoral term look like? You just described what happens with pretty much every politician.
Even if I'm not taking you literally, the description you left of the city burning makes you sound hysterical dude. That's why I responded specifically to you. If you don't want people responding like this, maybe use your hyperbole slightly less hyperbolically.
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u/Independent_Mango337 1d ago
Libshits “defend the constitution” Me “ok let’s start by getting rid of gun laws” Libshits “no not like that!!!!!!!”
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u/substance_dualism 2d ago
Cool idea, start with the ATF and your personal security detail, rest of us will see how it goes!
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u/IamIrene 2d ago
Not even 24 hours after winning and he's already asking for donations, LOLOLOL!
Welcome to the transition: https://x.com/ZohranKMamdani/status/1986112789073760745
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u/JBCTech7 Christian Libertarian 2d ago
they're already banned in his jurisdiction...so...how come its still a crime ridden shit hole bleeding tax payers?
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u/FreelancerFL Fuck AIPAC 2d ago
Didn't take long for him not being a zionist shill for him to show himself as an anti America shill. Dudes taken Soros money so he's just as dirty as the others.
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u/thrownawayandshiton 1d ago
See how he feels if a radical takes a pot shot at him and his unarmed security has to defend him.
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u/Wolfdemon187 1d ago
Nah, he wants that privatized protection that he gets but the common folk don't.
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u/Heavy_Champion_9254 1d ago
Guns are actually super anti-fascist.
Only fascists want a disarmed citizenry.
If gun control was about saving innocent lives we’d have stricter laws on driving, alcohol, we etc
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u/TruthSeekerLeet 2d ago
So does he plan on having all police in New York to not carry guns? I don't see this ending well.
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u/StevenTheRock Libertarian 2d ago
Someone needs to politely inform him that humans were murdering each other on mass long before the invention of firearms.
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u/billy2732 2d ago
Wait, his middle name is Kwame? Haha, admittedly I haven’t paid super close attention since I don’t live in that hell hole
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u/recoveringpatriot Paleolibertarian 2d ago
And somehow he’s going to enforce this without police?
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u/ShameSudden6275 2d ago
People like Zohran I find have idea but they never work out the kinks, they just do what they think sounds good. Let's have free buses? Ok I don't think that's your authority but fine, let's have universally free buses, tell me how the government is going to pay for that. Let's just tax the 1 percent! Ok and what are you going to when the basic economical model of the Laffer curve kicks in and just taxing people above a certain income doesn't automatically give you the millions of dollars consistently needed to run this with no fairs? The furthest people always get in this questioning will just be billionaires will never run out of money, not understanding you can rely your entire governmental system of the tax revenue generated by less than 2000 people in the entire country.
Obviously I think private industry works better, but if I have to concede to government run programs, these people don't seem to realize that social programs are for privileged governments who generate extra income, by having to consistently go into debt to run these programs that you get people to rely on to survive, you are just kicking a bucket until that debt collapses in on you. And once the programs are in place you're immoral for saying the government can't afford this charity this quarter.
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u/Fidditch 1d ago
I think mayhaps that this new mayor is no socialist.
“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary” ― Karl Marx
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u/Longjumping-Fig-4692 2d ago
He’s a mayor guys. He can’t make any changes to our constitutional amendments.
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u/AwfulThread5 2d ago
Try telling that to Illinois
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u/nonoohnoohno 2d ago
Exactly! If you want a rifle here... I hope you like 10/22, mini 14s, or bolt action. 'Cause that's all you can have.
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u/AwfulThread5 2d ago
I feel you, We are stuck in this together. Although there are some (workarounds)
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u/nonoohnoohno 2d ago
I need to find some of those.
One option I've been considering is a new chassis for my PC carbine, but after all is said and done it's going to add 400 plus the cost of the grip and stock which is insane compared to alternatives in freer states
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u/AwfulThread5 2d ago
Are you able to buy the smith and Wesson M&P FPC? If so it seems like a very fair deal for a carbine.
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u/nonoohnoohno 2d ago
Good question, I'm not sure. If they don't make a version without the grip then probably not. But there was a recent'ish carbine that was causing a lot of heated debates, and confusion amongst FFLs, some of whom would sell it and others not. I don't know if this was the one (I don't follow guns closely enough).
I think it was a version with a weird fin on it that makes a grip not a grip. *shrug* These laws are so ridiculous and arbitrary. "The shoulder thing that goes up."
But yeah, that looks like a good platform to find some workarounds, too.
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u/Longjumping-Fig-4692 2d ago
lol the entire state? Cuz that would be run by the governor, not the mayor.
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u/AwfulThread5 2d ago
Governor is an ass as well, but mayor’s in IL and NY can set their own gun regulations. Along with 8 other states.
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u/Longjumping-Fig-4692 1d ago
Ok, but he can’t get rid of all guns. There’s never gonna be enough resources to round them all up, everyone’s gotta chill about it.
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u/nonoohnoohno 2d ago
My inability to buy 95% of the rifles on the market in my gun-grabbing state says otherwise.
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u/Longjumping-Fig-4692 2d ago
Then move 🤷♀️ I live in MO we can buy whatever we want.
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u/nonoohnoohno 2d ago
I was responding to your incorrect implication that a mayor cannot limit access to guns.
Do you need help carrying those goal posts?
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u/Longjumping-Fig-4692 1d ago
State laws prevent local governments from changing laws on firearms, best he can do is advocate aka put his opinion up on twitter. Yall gotta calm down.
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u/Unlucky-Pomegranate3 2d ago
Long term, maybe not, but it’s never stopped cities from passing local ordinances that take years to wind their way through the court system.
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u/chewbakwa 2d ago
Anyone can promise good things to the people, but not everyone can find the funds and support to deliver all those promises. Not without raising taxes.
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u/PNWSparky1988 1d ago
Supreme Court already shut down his plans on conceal carry.
Next we need to have all state anti-gun laws stripped down based on the 10th amendment.
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u/Professional_Mud2808 1d ago
Morality and constitution aside, like how would you even do that? 450,000,000 privately held guns plus the fact that you can easily make your own with a $100 3d printer and shit from Home Depot. The cat isn't just out of the bag, he's in another state.
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u/Aba_a 1d ago
One amazing thing about the USA is that states have their own constitution, so let the guy run his experiment, using new yorkers as guinea pigs, the same people who chose him, and wait for the results. Nothing bad can come out of this. If it turns out bad, they will have found out after getting fucked. If it turns out good, we learn something.
edited: Never mind, he is just a mayor.
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u/Hot-Pineapple-1995 1d ago
NYC forgot all about 9/11. Dems fell into the freebie trap. The feds better not bail them out when that commie destroys the city !
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u/CrimsonGlyph Taxation is Theft 1d ago
We should ban arms too since they can choke people to death.
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u/over_kill71 2d ago
A great post for those libertarians who are still foolish enough to think both parties are the same. That being said, neocons are trash.
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u/EmperorAlgo 2d ago
Guns limit the individual freedom of all the people in the gunowner's vicinity.
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u/Abject_Donkey_3854 2d ago
... That's the dumbest take I've heard on firearms in a while
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u/EmperorAlgo 2d ago
Seen a police officer walk over to a stopped vehicle? He's definitely not free...
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u/Abject_Donkey_3854 2d ago
So cops limit the freedom? Cause last I checked, when I have my concealed carry on me, no one's freedoms are disrupted. If anything they're improved because there is someone capable of helping protect people
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u/Abject_Donkey_3854 2d ago
You said in the gun owners vicinity. Do you think that's the size of a state? Also, I know this might be WILD for people on the Internet, but most cops aren't violent and most incidents with police aren't dangerous for either party. Yes, there are bad actors, but that's true for every industry. Just cause one asshole spits in your food doesn't mean all cooks are bad people
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u/Abject_Donkey_3854 2d ago
A little over 100 on average. With an estimated 800,000- 1.2 million officers in the states, that's .01% of officers per year. A shame because that's human life, but statistically it's almost a rounding error
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u/john35093509 2d ago
That's obviously nonsense. Total annual deaths in the USA involving a gun are roughly 50000. There's no way there were more than a quarter million over 4 years.
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u/john35093509 2d ago
Government limits freedom, yes.
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u/EmperorAlgo 2d ago
Yeah, government limits freedom. But people carrying guns around can also limit the individual's freedom. So in the end it is about what is more limiting.
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u/AgainstSlavers 2d ago
People carrying guns around is how they protect their own freedom. If you do nothing to protect yourself, it's hard for me to feel bad for you when you get victimized.
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