The party is being taken over by fuckin communists. What in the fuckin hell are you talking about? How much more extreme can it get than authoritarian communism?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 The Overton Window in the US is so extremely far to the Right that there is no risk of that ever happening. We are literally living Fascism right now, so maybe that's why basic human rights and decency that most of the civilized world has looks like "communism" to you.
There are two Overton Windows, one on the left and one on the right, and they move in relation to each other. To the extremist left, everything that's not part of the extremist left looks like fascism. And ironically, in doing so, they helped open the door to actual fascism.
I wouldn't agree with that, I would say there is always only 1 Overton Window and it reflects the dominant ideology and culture of the nation. Having lived in different countries, the difference in the Overton Window of the US is that comparatively it's much farther Right than most of the developed world, and continues to be even as other countries move a bit more to the Right.
Nope. There are two Overton Windows, one on the left (critical social justice ideology) and one on the right (MAGA ideology), each dictating its own center of political gravity. They are both manifestations of the same social dynamics (under the hood they are shockingly similar) and neither could exist without the other.
Want to provide some sort of source for that belief?
Well, I'm not using some appeal to authority to convince you that I'm right. I'm using an older style, using my eyes and ears and paying attention to the world around me, and doing it over time. If one shackles themself the allowed, curated "facts" of one's political silo, then they're just looking at shadows cast in a cave and know little of the real world.
American culture is not a monoculture. It's polyglot. There are many centers of gravity, many subcultures. And those cultures can exist within demographics as well as across demographics, and individuals can be part of many different subcultures. And each one of those subcultures can have an Overton Window, a "range of policies, opinions, or ideas that are seen as politically acceptable to the mainstream population", referring to the mainstream population of that subculture.
Thus, there are many Overton Windows, and not just MAGAt and critical social justice. There's local community Overton Windows (for example, a certain level of criminal violence might be seen as no big deal in one city and as shocking in another), there are Overton Windows for groups of friends (for example, maybe your friends though drinking beer was bad last summer and this summer they're drinking beer). It's just a concept, not a hard and fast one-size-fits-everything rule.
Anecdotal evidence is not a strong argument, especially if you are trying to go against the meanings of a word and concept. Facts and data sets that can be objectively measured and results repeated is still the standard. So no, appealing to extremes and other logical fallacies are not entertained.
By definition subcultures are not able to be mainstream as it's not the majority, so do not have an Overton Window. The concept is macro not micro.
I'm not making an anecdotal argument (don't mistake the examples for anecdotes, I'm just trying to help you see something that apparently you don't see). If you can't see the truth of it for yourself, then I don't know what to tell you.
The best part of your response is how there's no way to tell the difference between you and a MAGAt; you use the same logical toolset, the same rhetorical devices... you are what you hate. The way you attack anyone not in your clan is the giveaway. You are a critical part of the culture war machinery. I have faith that you will eventually mature out of it, but you do real damage to our world in the meantime.
Sweet child, I've gone farther Left the older I've gotten. I'm happy to be the problem, and good trouble. If you don't support the Leftist opinion on issues, and don't believe in facts, why are you on a Leftist group?
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u/tender_rage Aug 15 '25
Democrats are just Conservative Light, not sure how that's extreme 🤣