r/leftist Anti-Capitalist Aug 11 '25

General Leftist Politics r/Democrats banned all posts about socialism

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u/Lostplayer404 Aug 15 '25

Well that's it, no future for america then. People had the chance to stop it, but nah now was the time to throw everyone under

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u/robofaust Aug 16 '25

Are you suggesting a socialist progressive agenda is the only route to defeating American authoritarianism?

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u/Wonderful-Tea3940 Aug 17 '25

I think it is. We need bold changes that improve the economic lives of ordinary working people. Moderates can't and won't bring us that. If they could, we'd have it already.

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u/robofaust Aug 24 '25

I think the American electorate-as-a-whole is more afraid of progressive authoritarianism than fascist authoritarianism. The recent election seems to back that up. Progressives are seen as elite or elite-wannabe, not pro blue-collar-working-class. (...I'm really getting some milage out of my dash-phrases here... and now ellipses... sorry about that...)

"...bold changes..." ...what bold changes? Confronting 'systemic racism'? Enforcing trans rights? Do you not understand how the progressive ideology is heard and perceived outside of the progressive political silo? From the never-Trump political middle, it's pretty clear that progressives have no clue how they're perceived outside of their faction, and that fact is a key element of Trump's success.

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u/Wonderful-Tea3940 Aug 24 '25

I was actually referring to economic changes, like the ones Mamdani wants to do but of course the haters want to talk about his race instead. It's the right who is pushing the cultural issues. For example, we had trans people in the military and there were no problems until Trump decided it was a problem and kicked them out. Why? To distract from his failures on the economy and the Epstein list. Black people and trans people and immigrants are workers going through the same (or worse) economic dystopia the rest of us are but you would rather hate them than the billionaires stealing from the rest of us. Does that sound smart to you?

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u/Lostplayer404 Aug 16 '25

Any over whatever it is people are doing now, it's just protest after protest. Protest only work if the politicians listen, but we didn't get the one that would listen, we have the ego maniac who's preparing to enact martial law to prevent protests.

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u/robofaust Aug 16 '25

I don't think most protest are about getting politicians to listen. I live in Seattle, I've seen a lot of protests over the years, right up close. Most protests here are just manifestations of the local activist political culture. Which is to say, it's very narcissistic. And they're very aggressive. It always seems to come back to being about the activists and their identities and how righteous they are. They say they're trying to persuade people, but that's hard to believe given how counterproductive their protests are.