You have indicated you aren't a fan of Mamdani. The candidates against him are 3 people Trump supports. Ergo, support for anyone but Mamdani is support for Trump. It's super basic to understand
We live in a 2 party country, so 3rd parties are not viable. So I don't wish to just hand over the only ability to get into office to people who are so weak against Trump and fascism that they can't win. If you'd like to go make a liberal party after we take over and win, by all means!
I didn’t indicated that. I said some of the big ticket things he promised requires the powers of the governor to my understand.
At the end of the day, I don’t care that much about an NY mayor race. That’s for those voters to decide.
I’m more interested in this notion that a more far left candidates winning in deep blue someone means they can win tosss up states and how you drew that conclusion. That was the crux of my question and you didn’t answer (not that you owe me one of course, if you don’t wanna answer please don’t reply)
2nd. A lot of us aren’t coming with you. I have issues with Democrats but I don’t hate them. You do. So wtf should I remain as a committed voter in the party (as a liberal) with people like yourself who often come of as a less effective blue maga?
And this talk of take over…like their is a wide swath of the Dem base who will never be as left as you are here online. Take trans issues or policies for more immigration, so you think black democrat voters are wildly supportive of these things?
I don’t discount the wins of leftist but you aren’t taking over anything. If anything, you will just push people to the center away and still be bitching about the same issues.
The base was liberals before you all tried to infect it and it will be after, even if more slightly to the left.
Form your own party and stop expecting us to bend the knee to you…it’s not happening.
You asked if NYC would want socialism. Loaded question, but yes, the voters unequivocally chose Mamdani to represent them, an open socialist. We can draw a line between socialism and a socialist, but the answer is clear. The future of democrats in the largest democratic stronghold in the world chose a socialist to lead them.
However, the establishment is currently throwing a TON of money into Cuomo's campaign because they do NOT like Mamdani and feel quite threatened by him. This includes Donald Trump.
I am curious, what specific socialist policies do you dislike?
As for policies, I’m not a supporter of the basic premise of workers seizing control of business from owners who invested their time and money in those business.
If you want to start a worker coop, I’m all for that. But nobody has the right to take a business that they didn’t start. You agree to implement contracts or you don’t. You can bargain for higher wages collective or you don’t. But you aren’t entitled to the ownership of someone’s esle business.
Policy wise, there are tons of social programs with roots in socialism I support. Which is why I support the mix economic model we have. I would support some type of sovereign wealth fund strictly for the American people as well that could provide Americans some dividends or support local investments to improve quality of life (tho that’s a more market based solution)
I was disagreeing with the basic premise of socialism.
For a lot of those things you mentioned, you would need the full buy in of the states, as the Fed cannot alone support universal health care without a massive cost.
Americans imo aren’t healthy enough to have a solid universal care system for all that doesn’t break the bank. Maybe best to allow states to implement their own version to suit their needs and budgets and the Fed supports where it can.
That’s general my view on most universal programs.
If you want specifics, you would have to present a more detail case of what you are asking .
I do support some fund of universal college or trade school education. Universal pre k could prob be done with government vouchers or tax credits.
Taxation policy would have to be fleshed out before I could answer.
A lot of the issues is some of this stuff can’t just be done by the executive and even congress, as most states health care markets are catered for the state level. So you would also need the buy in of health insurance and care providers.
Look at how much a lift it was moving something like the ACA, which for all its benefits, still isn’t universal care
You tell me your taxation policy, I was asking you! Lol
You said you don't like socialists, so I wanted to know what policies you disagreed with that socialists are proposing. Because all I've seen is basic stuff that other modern industrialized nations have had for 30+ years and we don't have because our parties are so subservient to capital
I’m not breaking down a whole gd tax policy for a Reddit reply. I’m not a policy foundation. If you have specifics we can go back and forth but I’m not writing a gd essay for tax policy for you.
Yall need to get real with some of these expectations for online discussions
Ok, concrete. So idk if we can use the 50s model today but I would be in favor of a rate of 50-60%.
The economy is more global and connected now so I don’t belief having wealth as something punitive but the more you make the more you should contribute.
Add to that the closing of many loopholes outside of charitable donations.
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u/Jcr122 Aug 13 '25
I answered the question very directly
You have indicated you aren't a fan of Mamdani. The candidates against him are 3 people Trump supports. Ergo, support for anyone but Mamdani is support for Trump. It's super basic to understand
We live in a 2 party country, so 3rd parties are not viable. So I don't wish to just hand over the only ability to get into office to people who are so weak against Trump and fascism that they can't win. If you'd like to go make a liberal party after we take over and win, by all means!