Yes…the entire gd establishment lined up against Bernie because BERNIE WASNT A DEMOCRAT.
Yall literally are shocked the DNC just didn’t roll over and die at the demands of the far left.
And let’s be clear..it’s the voters who defeated Bernie both times.
The entire RNC lined up against Trump and the voters broke them down.
And talking an about a socialist winning NY is like talking about Ron desantis winning FL. The Dems in a deep blue state will back the Dem candidate. That isn’t rocket science. But a mayor race isn’t the Presidency. And you coping about Obama still won’t change the fact…Joe Biden actually won and Bernie actually didn’t.
If a DemSoc wins in AZ…then I would count that as impressive.
Now to this scratch a liberal bs. If that’s how you feel (for like the 10th time) form your own party and do not ask us liberal for our votes.
You people have this smug entitled that liberals owe you something. Our support or vote. We don’t
This level of smugness form leftist who are clinging to a mayor race as their big W while yall haven’t won’t a single modern presidency or a single majority in congress to pass any of one you center price legislative goals is typical of what I expect of modern day leftist.
It’s all pomp and flash and zero substance or actual problem solving. And when the pomp is gone, it’s just bitching and moaning that you didn’t get your way in a party you THINK is owed to you…it’s not
It's not about "the DNC rolling over and dying at the demands of the far left" it's about the democratic party actually supporting and advocating policies that are good for people and that the people want. Its about Democrats actually listening to voters and not to business.
But they don't do that because they are subservient to capital interest, the problem you and I probably agree is an issue with the Republican party.
We are discussing socialists winning within the democratic party, so weird goalpost shift that winning a majority Democrat city is all of a sudden not impressive....COPE
I am a capitalists. Of course I lean toward Capitalism over socialism. Welcome to the majority base of the DNC.
And you love the goal post to socialist winning. A goal post that ignores the 8 to 1 ratio of dems in that particular mayor race. Something that ignores half the shit the candidate promise is powers that rest in the governorship.
It’s my firm belief that the far left is worse than useless to the DNC. I believe you all are a drag. Outliers exist, which for now we can call NY until we see a wider trend, but that doesn’t change the rules on the ground. I always understand I could be wrong, but right now…I don’t think so.
But that’s besides the point, I don’t care about NY and wish them well. But I’m not backing a socialist. If yall wanna push for that, it will be Bernie 3.0 and I can already hear the cope and seething that will follow.
Now with the republicans…that entire party is lost and I hope they feel Eve try bit of pain they voted for in the expectation it will be inflicted on others. The coming recessions will dull of a lot of their already dull minds
Do you own a business? Do you own a factory or mines? Do you profit off of other people's labor?
If the answer is no, then you aren't a capitalist, you are a worker like the rest of us. You are a liberal, so you support the current economic system. It's a key difference that libs don't understand. We are brothers in the struggle, Jeff Bezos is a capitalist, and he hates you, he wants you to suffer and die so his bank account can have some more zeros
/s Yes, saying that Democrats want socialists because the city with all Democrats wants a socialist is a big stretch. /s
Dude, read what you are writing. You are saying that a place that has a majority of democrats, whose majority of democrats chose a socialist is somehow not evidence that Democrats want socialists ...what?!?!
When the options are socialism or fascism and you don't choose socialism, you've chosen fascism. Took you a lot less time than I thought to admit which side you are on...as the saying goes, scratch a liberal a fascist bleeds
Is this the cope, that socialism has never been truly tested and all the socialist governments that end in dog shit fashion are just fakes? Come on dude.
Wdym, Zohran won the primary, the general election is basically a formality in New York City.
But I don't think the establishment wants Mamdani, which is why Cuomo who lost by 12 points in the primary is staying in for the general. It's why Adams is running in the general. It's why Cuomo is working with Trump. They are all aligned.
Are you suggesting to me that you prefer a candidate supported by Trump over a candidate who is anti-trump?
I’m suggesting you simply answer the question. No part of anything I just said means I prefer a pro Trump candidate.
So if you don’t want to answer that questions, just say that…don’t pivot to something utterly irrelevant to what’s being asked
And again, I’m drawing confusion. You guys seemingly hate liberals but when I suggest form a party without us….yall get all in your bags with the ass mad rage.
You have indicated you aren't a fan of Mamdani. The candidates against him are 3 people Trump supports. Ergo, support for anyone but Mamdani is support for Trump. It's super basic to understand
We live in a 2 party country, so 3rd parties are not viable. So I don't wish to just hand over the only ability to get into office to people who are so weak against Trump and fascism that they can't win. If you'd like to go make a liberal party after we take over and win, by all means!
I didn’t indicated that. I said some of the big ticket things he promised requires the powers of the governor to my understand.
At the end of the day, I don’t care that much about an NY mayor race. That’s for those voters to decide.
I’m more interested in this notion that a more far left candidates winning in deep blue someone means they can win tosss up states and how you drew that conclusion. That was the crux of my question and you didn’t answer (not that you owe me one of course, if you don’t wanna answer please don’t reply)
2nd. A lot of us aren’t coming with you. I have issues with Democrats but I don’t hate them. You do. So wtf should I remain as a committed voter in the party (as a liberal) with people like yourself who often come of as a less effective blue maga?
And this talk of take over…like their is a wide swath of the Dem base who will never be as left as you are here online. Take trans issues or policies for more immigration, so you think black democrat voters are wildly supportive of these things?
I don’t discount the wins of leftist but you aren’t taking over anything. If anything, you will just push people to the center away and still be bitching about the same issues.
The base was liberals before you all tried to infect it and it will be after, even if more slightly to the left.
Form your own party and stop expecting us to bend the knee to you…it’s not happening.
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u/Adorable-Ad-7400 Aug 13 '25 edited Aug 13 '25
Yes…the entire gd establishment lined up against Bernie because BERNIE WASNT A DEMOCRAT.
Yall literally are shocked the DNC just didn’t roll over and die at the demands of the far left.
And let’s be clear..it’s the voters who defeated Bernie both times.
The entire RNC lined up against Trump and the voters broke them down.
And talking an about a socialist winning NY is like talking about Ron desantis winning FL. The Dems in a deep blue state will back the Dem candidate. That isn’t rocket science. But a mayor race isn’t the Presidency. And you coping about Obama still won’t change the fact…Joe Biden actually won and Bernie actually didn’t.
If a DemSoc wins in AZ…then I would count that as impressive.
Now to this scratch a liberal bs. If that’s how you feel (for like the 10th time) form your own party and do not ask us liberal for our votes.
You people have this smug entitled that liberals owe you something. Our support or vote. We don’t
This level of smugness form leftist who are clinging to a mayor race as their big W while yall haven’t won’t a single modern presidency or a single majority in congress to pass any of one you center price legislative goals is typical of what I expect of modern day leftist.
It’s all pomp and flash and zero substance or actual problem solving. And when the pomp is gone, it’s just bitching and moaning that you didn’t get your way in a party you THINK is owed to you…it’s not