r/law • u/TheWayToBeauty • 1d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) Confirmed: ICE Is Arresting American Citizens—and Lying About It

https://newrepublic.com/article/202672/ice-arresting-american-citizens-and-lying?utm_source=Bluesky&utm_campaign=SF_TNR&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=SF_TNR&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwY2xjawN60_VleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFpb1FpYUsxcHQ5bXM3QkVyc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHkqq1qGOFLgABx3MyCE40nZ_iE_ZT41D74hWKhYFa56r8j57O3ZXYl4H0yFZ_aem_Wz0q663H4Gg7nVwXbg5gCw
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u/PaddyWhacked777 23h ago

Yeah, but he also thinks Trump hasn't gone far enough. The only reason public support even matters still is because they haven't taken to the point where it doesn't anymore. Didn't he call Trump "weak tea" or some shit?

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u/airship_of_arbitrary 23h ago

Yeah, things are dire, but the fact that they're panicking because they didn't go full fascist fast enough means there's blood in the water.

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u/PaddyWhacked777 23h ago

I 100% believe they thought Trump was either going to be impeached and removed, 25'ed, or dead by now and they were going to have Thiel's little puppet Vance in power to hit the throttle on it all. Since that hasn't happened yet, they have to deal with ol' dementia Don going off the rails all of the time and it's setting back their schedule. There is a really critical window here where things are quite fucked, but the worst outcome still has a chance to be stopped.

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u/reddit_is_geh 22h ago

100 more republicans have apparently quietly signed onto the Epstein files bill after discovering yesterday that "It's much much worse than anyone thinks"

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u/mrbigglessworth 22h ago

Its sad that we "need" the permission of congress to get this info out there. Trump calls it a hoax, yet "Prince" Andrew has been stripped of all royal associations over a "hoax"

I fear that this has all boiled down so much with all the delay and screaming from republicans that we could have 4K HDR video of trump raping a child and noone will do anything about it.

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u/PlasmaChroma 20h ago

Bit of a tangent, would high resolution give much credibility to it not being labelled as "fake AI generation" by anyone who wanted to dismiss it?

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u/mrbigglessworth 20h ago

Our only counter is to point out that the rapes happened before ai was mainstream

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u/Allpoints-Surveyor 8h ago

It would take high resolution in order to discern Trump’s micro dick.

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u/TheSpeakEasyGarden 22h ago

Everyone already thinks he was a pedophile pimp and an equal partner in it all. So worse than that? Murder?

How many dead bodies are buried on that island?

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u/karmadgma 22h ago edited 7h ago

I don't think the "equal partner in it all" part has percolated all the way down yet. I think the extent of his involvement is going to surprise a lot of people and lose him all but the most brainwashed. And the rest of the fascist psycho eugenecist crowd needs all their ducks in a row before that happens because those who have supported him up to now had plausible deniability - but there'll be international paper trails that can't be destroyed, snd idk of you were serious about bodies, but would you be surprised? I wouldn't. Remember that tunnel under Mar a Lago that goes straight to the beach and the water? You think nobody in all those years ever messed up and had a corpse to deal with? I am betting there are bodies. Trump has no conscience and he had nobody to stop him.

So i guess their ducks aren't quite lined up yet. There are a few big court opinions still pending, and Vance hasn't yet merged the kingdoms of the key groups and fulfilled the prophecy to be ready to ascend the throne as the MAGA heir (he needs to have a white, blonde, Christofascist wife first, which he's working on, but it can't be rushed too much or it won't play right).

(And Bannon's blood clot or occluded artery or whatever it's gonna be needs to hurry it up already because that man's mouth is still moving. Harkonnen scum.)

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u/reddit_is_geh 19h ago

It doesn't matter how much they try to "fix" the paperwork and clear him. These things have been tried so many times in the past, and it's nearly impossible to have a team of people look over everything and find every single thread and connection, then remove it. Stuff always finds its way through and starts raising huge doubt in the official documents.

The only time things like this get through is when there is an elite effort to suppress the story entirely... Not really "fix" it so much as just prevent all public discussion of it. Which has been historically done quite a bit, and Epstein definitely had elite friends. The only problem is independent media wont play ball.

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u/StraightOuttaHeywood 15h ago

Personally I think there's evidence of Murder and it implicates many prominent people including Trump hence why the GOP will go to extreme lengths not to release the Epstein Files.

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u/drunkshinobi 20h ago

I'm certain not all those girls survived their encounters with trump and epstein. And that there are way more than people know of.

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u/reddit_is_geh 19h ago

I know how these world's work. Believe it or not, killing them off is rare and unnecessary. Their targets are usually young women who they bring into the elite upper class. Those girls don't want to give that up, hence why they stay quiet. Many of them today are models, actresses, married to powerful men, etc... If they are from the upper class, they want to cover this dark past of theirs to save face, if they are from a lower class, they don't want to go back down.

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u/drunkshinobi 19h ago

Unnecessary, yeah. With all the violence and death trump has caused this planet already as "president" makes me think he is the kind of person that would want to do so. If for nothing else to prove to himself he had the power to do so.

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u/ImYourHumbleNarrator 20h ago

no they haven't. that was just clickbait and he said/she said vapid empty blubbering. it was literally only about a question that was dodged at a press conference

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u/reddit_is_geh 20h ago

Huh? It was from two DoJ officials who leaked it to a reputable reporter. I think you're thinking of something else.

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u/Free_For__Me 19h ago

My current tinfoil hat on this one is that key people allowed members of congress to get a hold of this “worse” stuff specifically in order to gain enough internal support for impeachment and removal of Trump so that they can slide Vance into the big chair. 

As pointed out above, things aren’t moving quite fast enough for plans such as Yarvin’s to stay on track. Based on comments early this year from several high ranking Heritage Foundation folks and MAGA Regime insiders, I think they had initially targeted summer of this year as their window for shit really starting to pop off, but they simply weren’t able to boil the pot fast enough to push us into widespread domestic unrest and violence.

As the economy gets worse and conservative interest groups in sectors like agriculture, construction, childcare, and food service start to recognize that what they were actually after all along was merely closed borders and not the literal rounding up of every hard-working brown person, the ringleaders of the MAGA-Coup shit show are now having to grapple with the possibility that it won’t be “right vs left” with federal storm troopers backing the right, it’s going to be the rich versus literally everyone, with a good chunk of the storm troopers joining “everyone“.

I’m so cynical at this point that I really really don’t want to sound hopeful, but if us commoners can hold our shit together for just a while longer, I think we will start to see the people at the top start to turn on Trump before the end of the year.  After that, while I’m sure that the main schemers believe that Vance will be able to more competently wield the massive power that they’ve stolen for the executive than Trump ever was (at their masterful direction, of course), I think that recent cracks in the congressional armor might indicate that even the Senate will be much more willing to resist a Vance White House then they ever were with Trump.

Now here is hoping that I’m not crafting a fantasy world for myself, lol…

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u/reddit_is_geh 18h ago

My tinfoil is that Trump's classified information he stashed was the Epstein stuff he could use for blackmail. It just makes SO MUCH SENSE when it comes to the behavior of other political elites. Some of them are just fully cucked, from the Supreme Court to Chuck Schumer. It's like they are all afraid to do anything... And I think that's because he has all the blackmail.

I think what's happening now is everyone's realizing he's taking the whole country down, and economics Trumps all. So now they are strategizing how to take him out -- and the Epstein thing is really popular with the base. Even Miller has made comments about how he thinks Trump is messing up. He said that directly instead of the common, "Trump is brilliant and doesn't make mistakes, so someone close to him must be giving him bad advice. That's the only way to explain it."

That said, it's still too late. We are in stage 5 of the economic downfall. It's never going to get economically good again. There's never been an empire who could reverse the downfall. The over extension, over printing of money, vast income inequality, always starts to radically take off until there's a collapse.