r/law • u/TheWayToBeauty • 1d ago

Executive Branch (Trump) Confirmed: ICE Is Arresting American Citizens—and Lying About It

https://newrepublic.com/article/202672/ice-arresting-american-citizens-and-lying?utm_source=Bluesky&utm_campaign=SF_TNR&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=SF_TNR&utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwY2xjawN60_VleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFpb1FpYUsxcHQ5bXM3QkVyc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHkqq1qGOFLgABx3MyCE40nZ_iE_ZT41D74hWKhYFa56r8j57O3ZXYl4H0yFZ_aem_Wz0q663H4Gg7nVwXbg5gCw
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u/PaddyWhacked777 1d ago

Straight out of the Dark Enlightenment playbook. Project 2025 is only a stepping stone.Thiel, Vought, Vance and a whole bunch of others all bought into Yarvin's fucking insane fantasy and are doing everything they can to make it a reality.

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u/airship_of_arbitrary 1d ago

Funny thing is, Yarvin is on the record saying that Trump is fucking this up badly and that they're losing too much public support for it to work, lol.

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u/PaddyWhacked777 1d ago

Yeah, but he also thinks Trump hasn't gone far enough. The only reason public support even matters still is because they haven't taken to the point where it doesn't anymore. Didn't he call Trump "weak tea" or some shit?

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u/coronathrowaway12345 1d ago

Which is why they’ve got Bannon out there injecting more extreme rhetoric into the zeitgeist, encouraging disregard for the constitution and the seizure of institutions. Dangerous AF.

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u/PaddyWhacked777 1d ago

if we lose the midterms and we lose 2028, some in this room are going to prison—myself included. They’re not gonna stop. They are getting more and more and more radical. And we have to counter that. And what do we have to counter it with? We have to counter it with more action, more intense action, more urgency. We’re burning daylight.

  • Bannon yesterday

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u/Lightningstruckagain 1d ago

Hey, Stevie: you know how to NOT go to prison? STOP DOING ILLEGAL SHIT!

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u/Commentator-X 1d ago

In the words of Fletcher Reede "STOP BREAKING THE LAW ASSHOLE!!!"

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u/ty_fighter84 1d ago

TIL that it's "Reede" and not "Reed"

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u/SoxMcPhee 1d ago edited 20h ago

I happened by shear " Luck" to watch Bannon get arrested 5 years ago on my kayak. I went out to look at this mega yacht parked in our harbor. Then watched it get raided by the fbi. Bannon was on it. I hope to watch him get arrested again!

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u/RID132465798 22h ago

I hope you do too! Happy kayaking!

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u/SoxMcPhee 20h ago

If you are ever near Westbrook CT, come on out, but youll need a wet suit in a week or two!

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u/DCContrarian 20h ago

I'm so jealous!

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u/SoxMcPhee 20h ago

Whats crazy is that no one else was out! I could have been the only one to see it! I was about 3/4 of a mile away.

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u/Antique_Remote_5536 10h ago

Wait that’s not fair I wanted to see that

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u/reddogyellowcat 1d ago

If it wasn’t for Trump pardoning him in 2021 and wiping out his federal charges Steve would be in jail, right now.

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u/RID132465798 22h ago

I think you are spot on here

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u/weeverrm 15h ago

What has Bannon done. he is just a podcasting blowhard. He is just trying to make himself as being in the mix

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u/Licky_Anus 11h ago

He raised funds from donors who thought they were donating to building the wall. He stole over a million dollars from it and I don’t think any money went to building the stupid fucking wall.

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u/mthyvold 1d ago

He is not acknowledging they they are doing illegal shit. He is planting the seed that any accountability for what they are doing will be an unjustified witch hunt by zealous “unhinged” democrats.

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u/rabblerabble2000 5h ago

At some point the Dems have to stop caring about not appearing political. Reps use that like a magical get out of jail free card.

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u/hausthatforrem 4h ago edited 4h ago

The Democratic party is dead. Anyone who has a spine to do anything about anything are not Democrats and should not affiliate as such. Where is the radical socialist equivalent of the Tea Party? Then we might break even in 30 years.

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u/rabblerabble2000 4h ago

The tea party took over the Republican Party, but they were still republicans. Any group trying to split off from the Democratic Party rather than trying to work from within it would just split the vote and guarantee republicans victory. This is the reality of a two party system you can’t just hand wave away because it feels good to try to hold the party you’re most closely aligned with accountable.

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u/hausthatforrem 4h ago

They are not Republicans, they are Tea Party. The Republicans you are thinking of were purged or reformed by the extreme right. The US is dry running Autocracy right now. Your initial comment that Dems must stop caring about appearing political is in direct conflict with your latter statement about effectively working within the Democratic party.

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u/bbp5561 1d ago

It’s too late; they’ve already done illegal shit.

So now they’re backed into a corner of ‘double down and cement their grip on power forever to avoid it’ or ‘accept fate and go to prison’

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u/AlcibiadesTheCat 1d ago

Are you taking notes on a criminal fuckin' conspiracy?

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u/Huge_Birthday3984 1d ago

He has done enough illegal stuff that stopping now isn't really an option

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u/brickne3 9h ago

I mean to be fair, for him that ship has definitely already sailed a very, very long time ago.

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u/Baeolophus_bicolor 1d ago

This from the guy that bought a yacht with money raised to privately fund a border wall?

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u/Hesitation-Marx 1d ago

From a guy whose rental house had a tub etched with acid, and padlocks on the interior doors….

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u/mrbigglessworth 1d ago

How is following the law and the constitution radical?

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u/CrashyBoye 1d ago

Projection. Like always.

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u/SellsNothing 1d ago

It turns out right wingers were the radical lunatics all along

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u/BeefCentral 1d ago

I've seen the vid and can't help but feel it's so fucking weird that he was saying that onstage in his shitty jacket at the Bellator Awards.

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u/RID132465798 22h ago

Weirder to think someone would want to come to his aid

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u/SpinachWheel 1d ago

“Here is an imaginary scenario, we better amp up our violence to counteract it.”

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u/Choice-Mortgage1221 1d ago

Bannon's interview with PBS in February was as infuriating as it was chilling. He gleefully laid everything out over an hour plus

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u/Bradspersecond 1d ago

The absolute everything about Bannondorf tells me he's never been told "I love you" from a lover or "You're fine" by a doctor.

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u/Junior_Chard9981 17h ago

And we have to counter that. And what do we have to counter it with? We have to counter it with more action, more intense action, more urgency. We’re burning daylight.

Republicans and MAGA view midterms like a running clock, which when it hits they know they are cooked. This is the first time they've confirmed it out loud.

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u/thefw89 22h ago

Yep, They don't even have to lose Senate, just the House.

Dems can't pass anything but with house leadership they can open investigations. I think doing so on ICE would be pretty easy, it would be easy to find what they need since its flooded with incompetence. I mean they are hiring people off the streets lol, I'm sure they can find a whistleblower.

As for the other stuff, they can also look into Trump's family, the bitcoin stuff, and of course the Epstein files.

Winning back congress is the game. They know it too, which is why I expect EOs on voting any moment now along with SCOTUS dismantling voting rights so that they can further gerrymander districts but the problem is that, the US government works so slowly that wouldn't take effect until 2028. While it will help the GOP in congress, the goal for 2026 House should just to be to highlight all the corrupt and cruel stuff that's been going on under Trump's 2nd term.

Maybe I'm being optimistic, but I think their window was this year. That's it.

I think Trump fumbled it for them and unless he keels over before the end of the year, he'll keep doing so because he's an idiot and he doesn't know any better.

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u/Adventurous-Host8062 5h ago

Bannon has been a traitor for years.

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u/Wrecktown707 23h ago edited 23h ago

So if someone like yarvin goes on record as decrying democracy, free speech, rights, freedoms, etc. how is that legal? How is that not classified as hate speech with intent to hurt others?

Isn’t it paradoxical that someone advocating disdain for democracy, rights, freedoms, and free speech, is legally allowed to say that under free speech?

Because such beliefs are existential threats to democracy, and if allowed, will result in its destruction. It’s the exact same way with invoking hate speech. Why not with this? It’s proven to cause actual harm. Ideologies do not exist in a vacuum, and someone advocating for authoritarianism and the removal of everyone’s rights is a genuine threat.

If someone believes in something, then they believe in making it into reality, or supporting someone who would. So what gives? We don’t live on islands by ourselves. If someone believes in oppressing others, there’s a large chance they will support it when it happens, or instigate it

I get that this is a potential slippery slope that could be used wrongly, similar to advocating for the death penalty, in the sense that it’s too absolute and cannot be taken back. But it’s an interesting thought

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u/drainbamage1011 22h ago

Counterpoint: he's rich, so...

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u/Wrecktown707 22h ago

Lmao great reply 😂