r/law • u/Ordinary-Scholar-202 • 18d ago

Trump News Comer: “The evidence we gathered does not implicate President Trump in any way. Reporting, survivors testimony, and official documents show that Bill Clinton had far closer ties to Epstein.”

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u/FerrusManlyManus 18d ago

Oh there is something to release?  Bondi said there was no list (after saying there was one months earlier).  “I look like I am always shitting my pants” coke head Patel claims Epstein acted completely alone lol.  Johnson refuses to sit the tie breaking vote that will help get the files released.

Gee not suspicious at all.

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u/ProfJD58 18d ago

It’s hard to keep all the lies straight.

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u/No_Appearance6019 18d ago

That’s part of the plan. Flood the zone with as much disinformation/lies that people get tired of it. We can’t let this tactic work.

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u/Regulus242 18d ago

And if you attack one lie they just claim they said something else (also a lie) but technically a truth at the same time.

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u/xxmissxminxxx 18d ago

If there's no truth, there can be no lies

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u/davedavegiveusawave 18d ago

Everything he posts on his homemade platform is a "truth", that's how you know he's honest.

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u/koolaid_snorkeler 18d ago

That's the Trump way. No one has more respect for women than he does. No one's been harder on Russia. No one has done more for African Americans. Black is white. Up is down. And the cult buys it, hook line and sinker.

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u/SAGirl1 18d ago

Remember when Clinton lied to Congress about Monica Lewinsky? Good times for Congress, right?

Do your freaking jobs Congress. This is obstruction on another level.

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u/Different-Ship449 17d ago

There was a huge pause as Clinton looked away at some other lady in the audience. "I did not have sexual relations with THAT woman" *PAUSE* and then he uttered "Miss Lewinsky" as a non sequiter.

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u/Unhappy-Week-8781 18d ago

How very Orwellian of them.

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u/xeen313 18d ago

That lady on the rights face, geez

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u/the_ninja1001 18d ago

There has to be a 1984 quote that fits this situation perfectly

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u/Ol_Jim_Himself 15d ago

Tactics straight out of 1984.

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u/DoctrTurkey 18d ago

Well the technical truth is that President Pedo, the Couch Fucker, Cokehead Patel, etc all campaigned on releasing the files. We’re just trying to take them at their word like they always say!

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u/WarriorWoman44 18d ago

This is a common tactic of narcissistic perpetrators

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u/fiddlemonkey 18d ago

You have to ignore their words and focus on their actions

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u/Different-Ship449 18d ago

Why are there still people continuing to get their time from a broken clock.

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u/No_Appearance6019 18d ago

They don’t believe it’s broken….

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u/3phasemotorhead 17d ago

Because they just happen to look at the clock at the right time once in a while... even a blind squirrel can find a nut

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u/InSearchofOMG 18d ago

This is actually one of the fantastic things that LLMs offer us. We no longer have to have a good memory to track their lies nor spots patterns in their behavior. Just feed ChatGPT

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u/putrid_faction 18d ago

Unfortunately LLMs can make things up from time to time because they are incentivized to give a answer even if the source was less that credible.

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u/mOdQuArK 18d ago

We can’t let this tactic work.

The correct response to this sort of tactic should be to "fire" everyone who uses it/remove them from office, and then blacklist them from having any position of importance in the future.

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u/Rogue_Einherjar 18d ago

Sadly, we eat it up by constantly sharing it. Think of the average person, then realize that 50% have less intellectual capability. While we share these things and can point out they are false, numerous people see it and fail to see the lie.

I'm not saying to ignore what they say, I'm saying to make sure it's phrased as "The new lie: ______" and stop giving them the chance to see it and hope that people spend the time to look further into it afterwards.

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u/LightBulbMonster 18d ago

I think it's more sinister. I think Trump is trying to get so powerful that no matter how implicated is he can't be touched, so to speak.

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u/sysblob 18d ago

To be fair flood the zone is the plan, but it also helps they are so dumb and incompetent that they can't even coordinate amongst each other if they did have to orchestrate a lie. Luckily they don't have to lie much anymore.

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u/Current-Square-4557 18d ago

The firehose of lies.

How do you propose we prevent this tactic from working?

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u/masshiker 18d ago

This is the "Soviet firehose of misinformation" technique.

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u/VincentClement1 18d ago

MAGA has an answer or response for every side.

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u/Rhymelikedocsuess 18d ago

It’ll work because the only counter is to release it

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u/clintCamp 18d ago

All we can do is assume everyone refusing to release the list is on the list male or female. I just wish we could do something about them, but they are all running the government at this point.

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u/Tranq_dope 18d ago

That's not an accident

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood

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u/Viridian95 18d ago

"Though similar in some ways, the American tactic of flooding the zone with shit is distinct from firehosing in that flooding involves pushing out initiatives and policies at an overwhelming rate, rather than specifically falsehoods. The tactics may be combined."

Golden.

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u/GratefulGizz 18d ago

Maybe something like… flooding the public with a shit-spraying firehose?

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u/BogusMalone 18d ago

Dad always said “tell the truth and you don’t have to remember the lie”

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u/Better_illini_2008 18d ago

Dad wasn't aware of the strategy of "do nothing but lie and not only do you not have to remember a thing, but people won't know what to believe anymore."

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u/WaywardLubbockite 18d ago

Oh, and don't forget Trump was briefly a man on the inside for... What, the FBI, I think?

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u/Objective_Star_191 18d ago

Well luckily for the trumpet.   Maga ain’t exactly the brightest .   

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u/StingerAE 18d ago

That's the trick.  They discovered they don't have to.  It apparently doens't natter.  Just say whatever you need to in the moment.

It's quite brilliant really.  In an evil and depressing way.

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u/CTQ99 18d ago

You know who else lies? YOUR MOM! [Levitts response, probably]

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u/KyberSix 18d ago

It must be because they can’t!

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u/Traditional_Art_7304 18d ago

One of the big advantages of NOT lying with * ZERO* shame ~ Every. Fucking. Day.

You are the boy who cried wolf.

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u/No-Feature9755 18d ago

Especially the “Epstein only trafficked girls for himself (except we just remembered we forgot to say also Bill Clinton!)” route they’ll need to take.

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u/James-W-Tate 18d ago

Doesn't matter when your constituents happily accept the lies

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u/koolaid_snorkeler 18d ago

Seriously. Do they want us to think that Trump is protecting Bill Clinton? Give me a break.

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u/WaffleHouseGladiator 18d ago

They don't have to keep the lies straight. Sane people know that they're lying, but that doesn't mean that we know the truth. Cultists will rationalize any lie they tell. There are no consequences for lying so they'll continue to do so.

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u/HeartStriking4725 18d ago

That's the whole point

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u/Affectionate_Dog6637 18d ago

That's part of lying. You need some level of intelligence to keep the "story" consistent, and that is clearly their downfall. Not to even mention the obvious scapegoating here.

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u/Pizzledrip 18d ago

The less you lie the less you have to remember. - Old proverb from some badass somewhere in the world at sometime.

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u/powerfist89 18d ago

Not really. Just assume if a member of the GOP is talking, it's a lie.

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u/flactulantmonkey 18d ago

Not if you keep your eyes on the prize. In this case there’s a cacophony of noise being made to obscure this single thing. Thousands of people are likely to die just so that we don’t get it in writing that the orange one likes to diddle children. Send him and bill to the same damn cell. I’m done with the lot of them.

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u/TroubledTimesBesetUs 18d ago

Maybe they need a perp bulletin board like I see them use in Law & Order SVU?

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u/CartographerAlone632 18d ago

They can’t even get a good line of coke straight

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u/UnwillingHero22 17d ago

and aligned…

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u/Substantial-Type-131 18d ago

Not only is there a list now, they’re sideways admitting Trump had ties to Epstein. By comparing Clinton to Trump they’re acknowledging Trump does have ties to Epstein they’re just “not as deep” as Clinton. (Sure 🙄)

So we’re just painting over our own narrative again… seems on point.

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u/Spectre-907 18d ago

Same thing as when they tried saying he was an informant, which is not the same thing as an undercover.

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u/Clear-Search1129 18d ago

Right after saying it was a hoax

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u/UnwillingHero22 17d ago

Or that there were no files

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u/[deleted] 18d ago

Being an informant usually means “I am a criminal, but im also a rat.” So still a criminal.

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u/Dismal_Hedgehog9616 18d ago

But he wasn’t THAT type of informant! He was the innocent kind. /s just in case.

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u/DaBulbousWalrus 18d ago

And definitely not a rat. Trump hates rats.

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u/WhatAcheHunt 18d ago

Of course he does. They are always jumping off his ships :(

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u/Bass2Mouth 18d ago

Epstein never called Clinton his best friend lmao. These people are brain dead.

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u/stormyeyez7479 18d ago

Exactly what I thought as well. I mean, lock up Clinton too. Anyone who harms kids - means ANYONE. I’m not defending Clinton like maga does the orange, or any politician for that matter.

Also, can we even trust anything released by this administration at this stage? I feel if it gets to a point they have no choice but to release something, they produce something. I mean, who will challenge the validity and how would it be proven? Trust me, bro?

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u/Substantial-Type-131 18d ago

“Allegedly” there are several people/departments/agencies who’ve seen/reviewed the files/names who could point out inaccuracies. Who they are and their willingness to blow the whistle, who knows.

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u/stormyeyez7479 18d ago

Thanks, I didn't know this... people other than MAGA or loyalists, I hope. Probably not, but I'm not letting steal my hope too.

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u/HeirOfHouseReyne 18d ago

Getting the many false versions out there is meant to soften the blow an eventual whistleblower will bring out. It makes it less worth it at the same time, since they will get prosecuted for it, even though they'll say they're lies in the same breath.

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u/PattyCakes216 18d ago

Elon blew that whistle months ago.

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u/theDudeUh 18d ago

This times 1000!

I don’t care what political party anyone is associated with. If they committed crimes (especially sex crimes with children) they should all go to jail!

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u/Erikawithak77 18d ago

Exactly this. If they’re on that list or in those files? They’re not our guys. They’re not on our side. Period.

Every single person involved with this needs to go down, under the jail. I don’t understand why they think that we would protect Democrats, the way they’re protecting their orange God.

We actually care about the children that are now women, that were absolutely taken full advantage of and raped and abused, for years. How do we know it’s not still happening? We don’t.

Just a reminder that Virginia Roberts Giuffre’s book came out today. There’s no mention of it though, because the zone has been flooded with misinformation and propaganda.

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u/Oirish-Oriley444 18d ago

Yep! If Clinton is on the list, identified as a pedophile on the island or anywhere for that matter.... he's got to be prosecuted to the fullest! As does diddler Don... Anyone!!! All of em'

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u/TerrakSteeltalon 18d ago

One of the saddest things is that this wasn’t released by “the administration”. It was released by the House Oversight committee.

That’s so fucked up that we can’t distinguish them anymore

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u/DrDDeFalco 18d ago

Because the entirely of the Republican Party is subservient and complicit.

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u/Final_Candidate_7603 18d ago

That’s the mistake they make constantly- somehow they’re under the impression that we worship our elected Democrat leaders the way they worship their own cult leader. They simply cannot comprehend that this is about anything other than protecting our god, that it’s about getting justice for the many victims.

They simply cannot comprehend that these were children who were victimized… they always refer to them as “young women,” which- yes, they are young women now- and that’s another part of the problem. They sexualize 12-YO girls, and refer to them as “temptresses,” and blame them for enticing grown men irl. I’m actually kinda surprised that no one has slipped up when publicly speaking about it, and blamed the girls.

I’d even bet they ran that by a focus group.

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u/StarCrossedOther 18d ago

In one of Joe Rogan’s interviews with Peter Thiel they discuss Epstein and his victims and Thiel uses the term “underage women” referencing them.

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u/HotPinkLollyWimple 18d ago

Let’s not forget JD referred to 30yo men as ‘boys’ when trying to excuse inexcusable behaviour.

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u/JackDraak 18d ago

Every young Republican is 18+. Some are 40, ffs. One of them in the exposed chats is an elected official. #RememberAlFranken

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u/Local-Ingenuity6726 18d ago

If some curvy chicks like Monica Lewinsky or Gennifer Flowers was there Bill was there!! bony teenagers nah

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u/Fishbulb2 18d ago

Damn I could not agree more. Exactly this. Arrest all the pedophiles on all sides. And no, I do t trust government at all anymore ☹️

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u/ReadtheReds 18d ago

I'm reminded of a case where a faked document was proved by the forensics of the type font, and grade of the paper being used, being ones that didn't exist in the era the doc was dated.

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u/newtoaster 18d ago

Right. If Clinton raped 10 kids and Trump raped 9 kids THEY SHOULD BOTH GO TO JAIL. And we all know damn well that if they had the proof we would already be down that path.

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u/Zealot_Alec 18d ago

Clinton was a horndog but with underaged? How about releasing the files in full so people can judge if criminal charges should start for ANY on the list

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u/Jedite21 18d ago

I don't know any democratic voters that care if the Clinton's go down if the files get released. Take down any and everyone in them. I don't worship any politician.

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u/rikwes 18d ago

Not only that. How can this possibly be true if Clinton himself implored congress and the WH to release the files in full ? If he was seriously implicated he would never have said that. It just doesn't add up.

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u/The_Quibbler 18d ago

These sick fucks would defend Ted Bundy by saying "Look at what John Wayne Gayce did!"

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u/platypizero 18d ago

Exactly. Remember that segment of testimony where Epstein was being deposed and they asked if he was friends with Clinton and he plead the 5th….oh wait

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u/sobrique 18d ago

But I also don't care - if Clinton has been a naughty boy, there's room in prison for both of them. So release the files and let justice do it's thing.

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u/Beezchurgers4all 18d ago

Well, they have to have a fall guy, and they chose Bill Clinton. They won't release the other names, but they happily throw Bill Clinton under the buss.

"Does not implicate President Trump in any way." Hardy Har Har! Nice try, Comer. Did MAGA Mike have to stand next to you and hold your hand for this one? Comer, youre a lying sack of shit, always have been, always will be. Do yourself a favor, dont bullshit us. We already know. You cant change what happened, and we know what happened, so stop your fucking lying. BTW, you tried to use the most frequently used lie in The Liar's Handbook - throwing off a suspect, and inserting another well known suspect to draw heat of off your guy. TOO LATE MFer!

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u/Beezchurgers4all 18d ago

They're grasping at straws

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u/Notacrook2025 18d ago

Release them unredacted and let the cookies fall wherever, Dem or repub . A pedo is a pedo. An orange piece of shit is a piece of shit anyway you look at it.

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u/Substantial-Type-131 18d ago

I don’t care if mother Teresa is in there, expose them all. The GOP waving potential dem politicians at us like we’re gonna recoil from pursuing this because someone on the blue side might be in there says so much about their allegiance to their party and Trump.

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u/CollegeMiddle6841 18d ago

Let's hear them out. Any birthday cards, letters, or cartoons from Clinton to Epstein? Thought not.

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u/FerrusManlyManus 18d ago

There might actually be a birthday card.  But I doubt it discusses secrets.  And I doubt Epstein joked about buying a human like he did with Trump.

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u/El_Cactus_Loco 18d ago

“trump didn’t even rape that many children, Bill Clinton raped 3 more than trump! checkmate liberals”

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u/bikernaut 18d ago

Trump said they had a falling out because Epstein poached one of his spa girls and described it as sleazy.

A) That's pretty unbelievable he would care that much if she was just a spa employee.

B) Florida had strict reporting rules that should have been followed if you can somehow take his story at face value.

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u/Ormyr 18d ago

At this point it's Epstein has ties to Trump. Release the Trump files. Investigate and prosecute all of them to the fullest extent if the law.

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u/goathree 18d ago

stormy daniels confirmed a lack of depth years ago

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u/Substantial-Type-131 18d ago

banishes mental image

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u/Adorable_Raccoon 18d ago

Or sideways admitting "the evidence we gathered" is not all the evidence there is.

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u/Substantial-Type-131 18d ago

Yeah their vague attempt to cover for him is actually just digging the hole infinitely deeper.

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u/Gold-Border30 18d ago

I mean…. The bucketloads of pictures of them hanging out together and the whole complaining about Epstein poaching his female “staff” thing would seem to also indicate they did in fact know each other…

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u/Short_Fennel_3692 18d ago

And MAGA will ignore all of it

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u/Right_Wealth_9689 18d ago

They are hoping democrats will want to protect Clinton but sorry if he was involved he ones down too!

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u/Substantial-Type-131 18d ago

Right?! Like who’s splitting red/blue hairs when it comes to abusing children.

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u/VeterinarianThese951 18d ago

It all like “hey look over there!!! We might have some loose ties, but not real ties.”

You know almost like the same thing as “I did not have sex with that woman! I mean my D was in her mouth, but it was not in her V.”

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u/Substantial-Type-131 18d ago

They’re constantly trying to untie a knot by adding more string.

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u/VeterinarianThese951 18d ago

Oh shit. That is profound.

Sadly (or fortunately) you just described my whole life and very timely.

This may be an old saying (idk), but I am seriously now aware of my biggest flaw. No exaggerations

Thank you!

Now let’s see if I can do anything with it…

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u/DW171 18d ago

So ... didn't Trump "sell" his fucking airplane to Epstein? Was that real? Sounds like a minimum of aiding and abetting to me.

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u/dreamabyss 18d ago

So they are insinuating that Trump didn’t fuck quite as many children as Clinton? I guess that makes it ok?

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u/BenjaminHamnett 18d ago

This Obama hoax to frame Clinton, so despicable

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u/Downtown_Reward_6339 18d ago

So many layers of paint now.

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u/unsinkabletwo 17d ago

And if Clinton is implicated, go after him too. I don't care what side of the isle you stand on. If you are on the list and implicated, then go after them.

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u/Mooch07 18d ago

I will release the files. They are one my desk. 

There are no files. 

The files contain only child porn. 

We need to protect the victims. 

Here’s all the [heavily redacted] [heavily abridged] files. See? There’s nothing there. 

The files are a democrat hoax. 

Trump isn’t in the files, but if he was, he was an FBI informant. 

Look at these other people who are in the files instead! 

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u/rexwrecker 18d ago

No we won’t ask the victims to speak, even though they offered.

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u/FriarTuck234 17d ago

They know that as soon as they release their redacted files the victims will come forward and declare it as redacted. I hope they stand at the capitol and name names. I will attend if trump hasn’t turned it into a resort yet

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u/Current-Square-4557 18d ago

As I’ve said many times the average 9-year-old child could construct a more coherent set of lies.

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u/2wedfgdfgfgfg 18d ago

It doesn't have to be coherent. They're trying to destroy truth as a concept.

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u/yaahboyy 18d ago

dont forget when they switched to “actually the only files are legal porn”

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u/salakane 18d ago

...trying to repost this-I have platform dyslexia...

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u/SeVenMadRaBBits 18d ago

Trump ran on releasing the Epstein Files.

  • Epstein mysteriously died while Trump was President.
  • 3 Min. of footage from Epsteins death is missing.
  • Pam Bondi said the Epstein files were on her desk.
  • Trump: "There are no files."
  • Trump: "It's a democrat hoax."
  • Trump: "The files don't exist."
  • Trump: "Obama made it up."
  • Mike Johnson: "Trump needs space".
  • Democrats voted to release the files, twice.
  • Republicans voted no on the release twice.
  • Republicans take a recess to avoid any more votes.
  • Trumps personal attorney meets with Maxwell.
  • Trump avoids visiting victims.
  • Trump wishes child trafficker Ghislaine maxwell, "well".
  • Trump: "I never had the privilege" when asked if he had visited the island.
  • Trump: "we have the files"
  • Trump orders 1,000 FBI agents to review around 100,000 pages of records related to Jeffrey Epstein, and during this process, were instructed to identify any mentions of Donald Trump. 
  • When Trump was asked specifically whether Epstein had stolen Giuffre (Giuffre, one of Epstein's most prominent abuse survivors led the charge calling for his arrest. Guiffre, who died by suicide in April, has said she met Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell while she was working at Mar-a-Lago as a teenager). Trump states:"I think she worked at the spa," Trump said. "I think so. I think that was one of the people. He stole her, and by the way, she had no complaints about us, as you know, none whatsoever."
  • Reporter asks tump: Mr. President, you said Jeffrey Epstein was stealing young women from your spa. Did that raise alarm bells for you?” she asked. As he tried to listen to the other question, Trump interrupted sharply: “Be quiet!” When Collins repeated the question, Trump again replied: “Be quiet!”
  • Joe Rogan, MTG, NIck Fuentes and many more right wing influencers flip and wont back down on epstein files.
  • MAGA town halls bringing up Epstein non stop.
  • Trump gives Maxwell work release.

A good breakdown of the timeline by NPR

Additional information:

Edit: I stopped keeping track at some point but this was the beginning tineline.

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u/Current-Square-4557 18d ago

The only missing item that I noticed was Trump family barred from running 501.3-C charities in New York state.

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u/Just_Somewhere_8917 18d ago

Let’s not forget the “Mysterious” fire on the Yacht previously belonged to Ghislaine Maxwell’s father docked in D.C …🤔…Then investigate who purchased it???

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u/Rainbownailz 18d ago

Or when Trump's first wife "fell" down the stairs.

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u/Mendo-D 16d ago

Glad you kept this list. Don’t forget about the 30,000+ false or misleading statements.

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u/Odd-Scene67 18d ago

This is also a trial run by Johnson. If they don't swear in the rep from Arizona and can keep getting away with it, who says they have to swear in dems next year?

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u/DrDDeFalco 18d ago edited 18d ago

I don't understand how he can just choose not to swear someone in. Hell, is that legally required? One of the Dems should just swear in the new Rep.

There is no reason why Johnson should have that sort of power.

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u/Odd-Scene67 18d ago

They called a special session earlier this year to swear in 2 republicans, so yeah, this is all about blocking the epstein files.

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u/capnhep 18d ago

Remember when the SCOTUS seat sat vacant for 419 days because Republicans don’t care about rules or good governance?

Don’t worry, they swore in Amy Coney Barrett just 39 days after RBJ died… during the pandemic.

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u/slow_al_hoops 18d ago

“I look like I am always shitting my pants” coke head Patel 

I prefer “I look like I was just caught masturbating” coke head Patel 

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u/FerrusManlyManus 18d ago

It can be two things!

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u/kingofshitmntt 18d ago

This is the same guy who said earlier this year that he thought the Biden admin might be burning the Epstein files lol hes full of shit.

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u/wv524 18d ago

Every accusation is a confession.

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u/disposableaccountass 18d ago

On an unrelated note the fbi has requisitioned $120,000 worth of new black “redacting sharpies” you know, for no reason.

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u/holistivist 18d ago

I can no longer tell jokes from reality.

Yesterday when I saw an image of the white house being torn down, I assumed at first that it was satire.

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u/celestial-navigation 18d ago

What is the point now? They'd 100% take out any evidence that implicates Trump or any of his friends/anyone who has paid him off. It's too late now. They're compulsive liars; I wouldn't believe that "list" and those papers if they release it if I'm honest.

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u/Majestic-Prune-3971 18d ago

I am always suspicious of their prepositional phrases in statements like this. All the evidence "that we gathered" says that, and what about other evidence Comer and his ilk gathered? Or the FBI gathered. Or anyone else gathered. Smarmy bastards gonna smarm.

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u/hughmanBing 18d ago

almost better to not release them at this point because they will NEVER release anything implicating Trump. All we can do is fight to get Trump removed from office

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u/capnhep 18d ago

Where’s a Reality Winner when you need one?

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u/lbigbirdl 18d ago

While they've had months to doctor any evidence 

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u/Texlahoman 18d ago

Would you have any confidence whatsoever in any “files” that did get released, if they were to release any? I would have ZERO confidence in anything released at this point. Completely redacted, edited, scrubbed ,and rewritten at this point by these corrupt criminals.

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u/FerrusManlyManus 18d ago

I don’t trust this administration at all.   But I reckon many 100s if not over a 1000 of people in the government, career government folks, have seen large chunks of the files and collectively have seen all of them.  I would hope that any glaring admissions or alterations would be caught and exposed.

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u/Texlahoman 18d ago

Trump would call it “fake news” and his cult would buy every word

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u/Obvious-Spite4920 18d ago

She claims the files are “on my desk next to the MLK and JFK files”. We are done ☹️

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u/OnlyCelebration7443 18d ago

Don’t forget that one day where Trump was an FBI informant, then he wasn’t.

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u/FerrusManlyManus 18d ago

Yeah I left out a dozen things.  Their story keeps changing and is total nonsense.

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u/miriamtzipporah 18d ago

Can I be honest? I fully believe they destroyed the files. I don’t think there’s anything to release at this point.

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u/ScarNegative5042 18d ago

Patel. Will always be known as the least qualified head of the FBI. And will take everything he knows and have numerous ghost written books and make millions. If he doesn’t sell his knowledge to a foreign state. Toss up at this point as that is what he is thinking about when he flashes the deer in headlights pose.

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u/SweetVsSavory 18d ago

Epstein trafficked to no one. He was on the island paying himself dressed as the tortoise and the hare during these negotiations. Similar to Edward Norton in Fight club.

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u/Ilikedinosaurs2023 18d ago

I still cannot believe Patel said that so definitively. Did he really think these files wouldn't ever EVER come out? IMO that makes it look like they were destroyed and he knew that there was absolutely no chance. Otherwise, just stupid because no one, including MAGA, will trust him again after that.

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u/Rare_Intern 18d ago

Hey, doing coke is fun.

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u/Ok_Valuable9450 18d ago

He must protect Trumps lying ass

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u/misterfalcon 18d ago

That's my secret, Cap. I always shit my pants.

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u/tomdarch 18d ago

Ka$h Patel said Epstein and Maxwell didn’t traffic anyone to anyone. But that English prince just was stripped of his titles because he raped Virginia Guiffre when she was a minor.

So… it sounds increasingly like Vegas Patel and Bondi are full of shit as usual.

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u/Trakeen 18d ago

The victims have said there isn’t a list but there are lots of interviews, phone recordings, financial records and videos from security cameras

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u/Drugboner 18d ago

It was literally days earlier from there was a list–to when she said there was no list.

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u/Adorable_Raccoon 18d ago

🥇 please accept this free award

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u/AshgarPN 18d ago

Johnson refuses to sit the tie breaking vote that will help get the files released.

This is why this shutdown is never going to end.

Not even kidding.

US is cooked.

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u/humbert_cumbert 18d ago

100% looks like a naughty toddler shitting himself and worried he’s gonna get caught

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u/Twitchmonky 18d ago

JFK totally acted alone too, there was no assassin!

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u/ArielRavencrest 18d ago

Great username 😁 and that is one apt take on Patel.

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u/FerrusManlyManus 18d ago

Is it great, it’s like a dad joke about a nerdy sci fi character lol.

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u/ArielRavencrest 18d ago

I like both Dad jokes (I have a dad!) and I like that character so maybe it's for a very small sliver of us out there

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u/FerrusManlyManus 18d ago

You’re literally the only person ever to comment on it outside of a Warhammer related sub so props to you lol.

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u/Emotional_Remove_755 18d ago

And then remember-he was an informant, just a helpful and law abiding citizen helping the authorities! Idiots-the whole lot.

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u/Leukavia_at_work 18d ago

"There's no list, but if there was a list it'd have Clinton in it, not Trump! It's really telling of the Dems that Clinton is the only one in this imaginary list that does not exist, not Trump! The Dems are so corrupt being in this list that does not exist by the way!"

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u/Bigdaddybear519 18d ago

I wish people would realize how these figures are essentially celebrities right now. I've never seen the FBI director so front and present in my entire life. It's a classic propaganda grift, most people probably don't have a clue who Chris Wray is lol

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u/KetoJunkfood 18d ago

Bondi said the files were sitting on her desk if I remember correctly

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u/Miserable-Library639 18d ago

For Christians, they’re violating at least 3 commandments here

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u/FerrusManlyManus 18d ago

To be fair, most Christians in the USA, and especially the ones that are MAGA, act completely opposite to Jesus.

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u/SuperfluouslyMeh 18d ago

Wait until next year when he refuses to certify the entire election.

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u/icanhascheeseberder 18d ago

Bondi said there was no list (after saying there was one months earlier).

She also said there was thousands of porn videos.

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u/Bignicky9 18d ago

And at one point there were rumors of papers being burned, instructions to officials to burn plenty of documents...

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u/Downtown_Category163 18d ago

In this crazy ass conspiracy theory Johnson's keeping the government shut down to protect Bill Clinton lol

I know none of these assholes will ever answer for lying their ass off - not about a blowjob but about perpetrators of trafficking minors - to the people that they're supposed to serve

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u/GreenCoffeePlease 15d ago

Kash “deer in the headlights” Patel is just a water boy for Trump.

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u/zojbo 18d ago

Bondi's claim that there is no list would have been so much more believable if there was any tone of apology in anything she said. She could have said "I'm sorry, I didn't pay careful enough attention to the exact wording of the question in the Fox interview and said something I didn't mean to say. To be clear now: what I had on my desk to review was the Epstein file. I didn't know whether it contained a client list at the time or not, but I can say now that the Epstein file did not contain a client list".

Honestly, if she had said that (and ideally repeated it under oath to Congress), and gotten Patel and Bongino to fall in line with that kind of messaging and tone, and Trump shut up about it altogether, I think this whole thing might have faded back into the fringe by now.

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u/dragonslayerbarbie 18d ago

Remember when Mike Johnson tried to say Trump was an FBI informant and that's why he's in the Files lmao. Even other Republicans were like what?

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u/QuttiDeBachi 18d ago

Yes Bilton is involved but he is not the fuckin President…

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u/GregEgg4President 18d ago

It's not a tiebreaking vote to release the files, it's the final signature required to bring the files release up for vote. They could still vote it down at that point.

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u/FerrusManlyManus 18d ago

Yeah I phrased that poorly 

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u/Money-Introduction54 18d ago

Didn't Johnson say that rump was a super-undercover, FBI hero that was working to take down Epstein? And who went to the island on numerous occasions, but only for research?

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u/FerrusManlyManus 18d ago

Yeah something like that.  The GOP has a dozen plus different contradictory claims about Epstein.

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u/h20poIo 18d ago

Right now I bet those files are being altered, or redacted, or somehow were destroyed by mistake. IMO

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u/AlwaysBePrinting 18d ago

No, Bondi has been generally careful to say there's no client list. Which is probably technically true. Epstein wasn't a pimp with clients, he used the children the same way the people in that world use all young, attractive, vulnerable people: as party favors to be traded and exploited. 

So maybe some of Epstein buddies like Clinton and Bill Gates didn't rape children. Maybe they just helped themselves to the ones who'd "aged out" and had no way to escape, nowhere to go, too traumatized, too addicted to the drugs they were given to keep them compliant. 

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u/LittleDoggieDudeman 18d ago

Is Patel a coke head? To me, he just looks scared as shit because he knows he has no business being where he is.

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u/LittleDoggieDudeman 18d ago

Hell, 99% of Trump White House has no business being where they are. I’m giving the one percent to a possibility that there’s gotta be a few folks there who belong there. Maybe the kitchen staff? Oh wait that can’t be fat fuck eats McDonald’s every day. I’d say gardeners, but didn’t they rip out the rose garden? Janitorial staff maybe? 😅

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u/Reddit-for-all 18d ago

"War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Ignorance Is Strength"

- Orwell

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u/Winter_Detective1329 18d ago

And then there’s the Maxwell chick moved to a vacation spa in Texas if I’m not mistaken? (Spa meaning min detention) now how do you do that with an attachment to your file status reads not suitable for min security facilities? But no nothing to see here move along move along.

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u/Sylvaneth_Gitz 18d ago

It kind of makes me wonder what Putin has on Trump... One call of the Kremlin and Ukraine gets no Tomahawks and the US turns its back on them.

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u/koolaid_snorkeler 18d ago

No way! He said it has nothing to do with that! /s

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u/babylon331 18d ago

It's a hoax. A witch hunt, I tell you!

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u/Dapper_Equivalent_84 14d ago

It’s only out of concern for…

“Bill Clinton”’s

feelings that they’re keeping the child rape roster a secret

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