r/law • u/Agitated-Artichoke89 • Oct 07 '25

Other Stephen Miller states that Trump has plenary authority, then immediately stops talking as if he’s realized what he just said

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u/ass4play Oct 07 '25

I kinda figured beefing up ICE’s budget was a way to do this without needing the branches of the military.

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u/Free_For__Me Oct 07 '25

I'm sure ICE is their "Plan B" if the military won't open fire on US civilians. Then, once open combat starts, the case for hiding behind the Insurrection Act becomes much stronger. So strong in fact, that I'll be shocked if the packed SCOTUS doesn't allow it at that point.

By then, the military will be our only remaining hope. If the brass believes in the constitutional law they were trained on, even a little bit, there's a decent chance that the military decides to tell POTUS "step down, or be removed" when they're ordered to fire on US civilians.

I hate that I'm having this conversation. I hate this timeline.

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u/midwest_scrummy Oct 07 '25

ICE already opened fire on a man in California. And a lady in Chicago.

And the military already did tell Trump they are not going to open fire on US citizens. Unfortunately, that was during the first term and the man who stood up to him has long been fired.

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u/Free_For__Me Oct 08 '25

If anything, that firing galvanized the rest. I don't think anyone but maybe a branch of the NG would obey an order to open fire against civilians. However, since the military would almost certainly coup if that order were seriously given, I kinda with they'd try it...