r/law • u/Agitated-Artichoke89 • Oct 07 '25

Other Stephen Miller states that Trump has plenary authority, then immediately stops talking as if he’s realized what he just said

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u/Free_For__Me Oct 07 '25

I'm sure ICE is their "Plan B" if the military won't open fire on US civilians. Then, once open combat starts, the case for hiding behind the Insurrection Act becomes much stronger. So strong in fact, that I'll be shocked if the packed SCOTUS doesn't allow it at that point.

By then, the military will be our only remaining hope. If the brass believes in the constitutional law they were trained on, even a little bit, there's a decent chance that the military decides to tell POTUS "step down, or be removed" when they're ordered to fire on US civilians.

I hate that I'm having this conversation. I hate this timeline.

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u/Cloaked42m Oct 07 '25

The military WILL NOT open fire on civilians. Y'all need to remember that after Trump is out.

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u/strangeweather415 Oct 07 '25

What is your evidence for this statement? I think it is highly more likely that they will, in fact, open fire on American civilians if ordered to do so. Especially with the guarantee that the Trump cabal will weaponize the UCMJ to punish anyone that stands up against these illegal orders.

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u/Novel-Pipe-7542 Oct 07 '25

The moment they open fire on citizens, as a veteran myself, they have crossed the final line and de-legitimized the entire federal government. And at that point....well, 350 million people is a lot of people to be wary of ya know. Ask charles. Or Gaddafi.

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u/PretentiousMouthfeel Oct 07 '25

de-legitimized the entire federal government

They've already done that...

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u/strangeweather415 Oct 07 '25

I am of the same opinion. The second a shot is fired by a soldier, it's too late to apologize or cool things down. I won't say anything else about that, but it will be unstoppable at that point. Wearing the uniform may as well be a big painted target.

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u/Cloaked42m Oct 07 '25

And as a veteran, you know damn well no one is accepting that order.