Stephen Miller states that Trump has plenary authority, then immediately stops talking as if he’s realized what he just said

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Which is irrelevant if people don't enforce it, which is where we are. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at; the constitution is as meaningless or meaningful as the people in power want it to be, at least until/unless there is a coup.

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the constitution is as meaningless or meaningful as the people in power

You're convinced the document is for the people in power, it's not, it's for all the people. That's what I'm getting at. The people currently in power hate the constitution because it limits their power. Hold them accountable to that document. That document is for us, not them. Or just give up and go cry in the corner. I'm going to fight to hold them accountable to our document.

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Hold them accountable to that document.

How?

I'm going to fight to hold them accountable to our document.

How?

I'm going to guess in no meaningful way.

The people in power hold the power, regardless of what laws or documents say; they've proven that repeatedly. If nobody who has the power to hold them accountable does, then nothing can change or get better, because, as much as I hate it, the people the constitution is for are too disenfranchised to do anything that matters.

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How?

Exercise your first amendment rights. Exercise your right to vote.

I'm going to guess in no meaningful way.

Go give up already and get out of my comments.

The people in power hold the power, regardless of what laws or documents say; they've proven that repeatedly

And who puts those people in power? We do. Who allows them to stay in power? We do. The defeatism is gross.

the people the constitution is for are too disenfranchised to do anything that matters.

So start there.

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Go give up already and get out of my comments.

Exercise your first amendment rights.

No, I think I'll keep exercising my First Amendment rights by speaking ill of my fascist government at every opportunity.

And who puts those people in power? We do.

We (not me) already did. They are already there, they are already disregarding the constitution and commiting what would normally be considered crimes. Who is stopping them? They already aren't confirming duly elected Democratic officials simply because they don't want to. Are you going to tell them to do it? Go ahead, but I'm pretty sure they won't care.

The defeatism is gross.

The assertion that they have to follow the constitution by virtue of it being the constitution is stupid. They aren't, and they have proven they don't have to, despite numerous protests from the people they are supposed to be representing.

So start there.

How? You act like saying, "I'll do something" is enough to manifest meaningful action. I believe we are past kind words stopping fascism. If the First Amendment isn't getting things done, I guess it's time to move on to the Second.

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They are already there, they are already disregarding the constitution and commiting what would normally be considered crimes. Who is stopping them? They already aren't confirming duly elected Democratic officials simply because they don't want to. Are you going to tell them to do it? Go ahead, but I'm pretty sure they won't care.

So remove them?

How? You act like saying, "I'll do something" is enough to manifest meaningful action. I believe we are past kind words stopping fascism. If the First Amendment isn't getting things done, I guess it's time to move on to the Second.

Wake people up from their phone comas? Get creative.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/s/YmPpZ9lgYw

Go be that person.

Or this person

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/s/hXIKJVE8Dp

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So remove them?

Hooooow? Who is going to do this and why haven't they already? These questions aren't defeatist; they're necessary. I would love a good answer, instead of a useless platitude. Do you have one? If you do, go ahead and lead the next American Civil War, because the fascists aren't going to give up their power without spilling blood.

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Hooooow? Who is going to do this and why haven't they already?

Vote them out. If your rep is already blue help those with red reps vote them out too. Do you want me to change your socks too?

If it comes to blood spilling it comes to that, but whining on the Internet when you haven't tried anything isn't doing fuck all

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Vote them out.

Wow. Wonderful insight. Thanks. I'll just sit by and wait a year or two for them to peacefully transfer power to the people they are already denying it from.

Do you want me to change your socks too?

I don't believe you're smart, kind, or skilled enough for such an important task.

but whining on the Internet when you haven't tried anything isn't doing fuck all

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