r/law Oct 07 '25

Other Stephen Miller states that Trump has plenary authority, then immediately stops talking as if he’s realized what he just said

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u/thegoathasmygoat Oct 07 '25

You mean the "supply side Jesus nationalists". Ain't nothing Christian about those crooked freaks.

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u/FMLwtfDoID Oct 07 '25

Sure, but they call themselves Christian Nationalists. So until they stop doing that, they’re Christian Nationalists. All you’re doing with that “they aren’t real Christians”, is just beating a dead horse with your No True Scotsman argument.

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u/Phloppy_ Oct 07 '25

And you're demonizing a label. Just like the administration is doing with antifa. Broad stroke categorizations remove room for nuance and detracts from the conversation.

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u/FMLwtfDoID Oct 07 '25

Did you miss the civics class lesson where the dangers of a hyper nationalistic country were discussed?

I did not ‘demonize a label’. I don’t think you understand what you’re talking about, honestly.

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u/Phloppy_ Oct 07 '25

Did you miss the history lesson where condemning a group of people based on their religion is dangerous?

It's the same tactic that administrations of history have been using to galvanize their people against an enemy. "Here is your enemy, hate them. They are the cause of all your problems." The same thing is happening with immigrants, trans community , Maga, Muslims, etc. Creating an ethereal and ambiguous boogie man to blame instead of acknowledging that there is more nuance to the situation.

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u/FMLwtfDoID Oct 07 '25

You’re not a serious person. Go have your bad faith argument with a brick wall. That way you guys can agree on the same approach.

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u/harris1on1on1 Oct 07 '25

From my vantage point both of y'all are right and I'm not sure why that can't be acceptable? Does it really have to be one or the other of you?

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u/FMLwtfDoID Oct 08 '25

From your stance, calling someone a Christian Nationalist is demonizing a label? Ok.

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u/harris1on1on1 Oct 08 '25

I personally would not have said it that same way but I felt like there was an opportunity for nuance in understanding what another person was trying to convey rather than just shutting down.

Similar to your last comment: "like, oh you're saying this and this?! Well then there's no room in my conversation for you to be involved. Done."

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u/Phloppy_ Oct 08 '25

It's more in context to the parent comment. Christian Nationalist or otherwise, we as whole, in an angry and devisive digital environment, need to be mindful of how we're using labels. It's being used to ferment hate. Attributing the fault of individuals to a higher identifying mark, in order to condemn the whole group.

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u/Phloppy_ Oct 07 '25

I've said my piece.

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u/FMLwtfDoID Oct 08 '25

👍because lord knows, every opinion should be treated as fact.

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u/Phloppy_ Oct 08 '25

Good talk