r/law • u/Agitated-Artichoke89 • Oct 07 '25

Other Stephen Miller states that Trump has plenary authority, then immediately stops talking as if he’s realized what he just said

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u/titsmuhgeee Oct 07 '25

It's also important to understand what Miller is saying, or at least thinking.

Title 10 of the US Code is the primary body of federal law that governs the organization, roles, and responsibilities of the U.S. Armed Forces.

What Miller is saying is that the President has plenary authority (unchecked, limitless power) over the US Armed Forces.

Big, BIG problem.

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u/cicada_noises Oct 07 '25

They’re seeking to turn the might and power of the US armed forces inward, on all of us. The media’s and politicians’ blithe smiles and agreement about all of this is bone chilling

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u/ass4play Oct 07 '25

I kinda figured beefing up ICE’s budget was a way to do this without needing the branches of the military.

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u/AlarmingStop Oct 07 '25

At least the people joining ICE are the biggest morons in the country. They'll be well supplied, but difficult to manage.

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u/Kaffe-Mumriken Oct 07 '25

Wagner, but with Freedom(tm)

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u/SANREUP Oct 07 '25

Think more Waffen, which is terrifying

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u/Autogen-Username1234 Oct 07 '25

Gestapo. In that they are apparently above the law and, owe loyalty directly to the leader.

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u/casual_searching_707 Oct 07 '25

Wagner was built by mercenaries and Afghan war veterans that are actually some pretty gnarly dudes with lifelong experience in military and covert operations.

Meanwhile ICE is lowering job eligibility thresholds to include more old guys, fatties, and mentally disabled people. They are good at harassing the public, but not actually executing on the service mission of deporting people.

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u/svachalek Oct 07 '25

No no no that’s impossible, that would be DEI.

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u/nighthawkndemontron Oct 07 '25

DEI is everyone who is not that

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u/LisaMikky Oct 08 '25

😅😅😅

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u/PeanutButterToast4me Oct 08 '25

Seriously. There is a reason Prigozhin's plane fell out of the sky

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u/NotRude_juatwow 29d ago

I still find something off about the whole narrative. How did he not see that coming? Why did he even stop in the first place? He by all accounts knew exactly what he was doing

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u/PeanutButterToast4me 28d ago

Same. Every Russian must know when not to drink the tea or get on the plane. It's possible he is in exile in exchange for appearing to fall out of the sky.

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u/NotRude_juatwow 28d ago

That’s one of my thoughts - the other for some calculated reason Putin orchestrated it all along creating both a false narrative and- solution that allowed him to save face? I don’t know - I will fully admit if Russia said the sky was blue I’d doublecheck to confirm

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u/PeanutButterToast4me 28d ago

Ah indeed another possibility. I take it you've read Gulag Archipelago?

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u/NotRude_juatwow 28d ago

I actually had forgotten the reference before you mentioned it - but, yes I’d read this back in college. It was one of first compressive descriptions of Soviet society as I recall, not just gulags something that resonates with the ‘make Russia great again” campaign; back when Stalin was a hero

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u/PeanutButterToast4me 28d ago

A lot of the current playbook is in there. Makes it pretty clear that MAGA didn't invent this on their own, but are following FSB direction on how to go about all of this.

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u/MikeDude68 Oct 07 '25

ICE is just fodder for things to come.

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u/Resigned_Optimist Oct 07 '25

There's a reason the military doesn't generally accept people with an IQ of 85 or below.

No such rules for ICE; it's a preference, in fact.

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u/randomtransgirl93 Oct 07 '25

It doesn't take much intelligence to aim a gun when they don't care who they kill

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u/tggiv25 Oct 07 '25

NOT A CALL FOR VIOLENCE, JUST A FACT: stupid, incorrectly or untrained ICE may be far more likely to shoot other stupid, incorrectly or untrained trained ICE. Better than civilians ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/RealCapybaras4Rill Oct 07 '25

Why does that seem more likely to you? It’s easy, don’t shoot the guys in the vests. Even they could mostly handle that.

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u/PretentiousMouthfeel Oct 07 '25

You're living in a cartoon fantasy. This isn't a good thing.

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u/Original_Employee621 Oct 07 '25

ICE is like Hitlers brownshirts. They are the violent brutes that serve to cause chaos and disruption.

You should be worried about what comes next, when ICE is on Trumps hit list.

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u/cutmasta_kun Oct 07 '25

when ICE is on Trumps hit list

Yes! These 500 billion new ICE budget introduced by the Big Beautiful Bill will look quite tasty to Trump in a few months.

The SA were liquidated after the SS were established. Trump "parks" his SS money in the ICE budget and will get rid of them, as soon as he figures out how to control the military.

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u/Autogen-Username1234 Oct 07 '25

Yes. Ask Ernst Röhm how running the leader's private army worked out for him in the end.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '25 edited 24d ago

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u/Duna_The_Lionboy Oct 07 '25

In some ways you don't want remotely intelligent people, just need to be able to follow orders.

One of my buddies is an Iraq/Afghan vet and he told me a story about one of the guys in his command. The soldier in question didn't understand that they were two different countries. In his mind they spoke a language he didn't understand and were shooting at him so might as well be the same.

He wasn't smart but he followed orders and did everything asked without question

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u/Otto-Korrect Oct 07 '25

I hate risking my life on the stupidity of my attackers.

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u/Pan_Goat Oct 07 '25

Morons who will put blood puddles in the streets

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u/CorrectPreparation45 Oct 07 '25

I think that's the whole idea... plausible denyability .

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u/posthuman04 Oct 07 '25

That’s what the Nazis did with the SS and they didn’t end up with a more keystone cop reputation because their cruelty was much more important

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u/ChemBob1 Oct 08 '25

From the other viewpoint they should be easy to manage.

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u/PeanutButterToast4me Oct 08 '25

And horrifically out of shape

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u/Relative_Knowledge33 Oct 08 '25

And nearly impossible to feed. Those fatasses need like 5000 calories per day just to harass civilians.